Talk:Giovanni Kean

IPA
Aikclaes removed the stress mark added by Ivan saying, "Stress mark not needed. Only one syllable" (at Moise Kean). Thoughts? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 14:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think we should have it when we have more than one word, just so not to make it look like the second one is unstressed compared to the other. [[File:Italy.png]] イヴァン スクルージ 九十八 （会話）[[File:Italy.png]] 15:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ivan might have a point. I can't find what the Wiki rules are on this. I just know that it looks wrong to have a stress mark in a monosyllabic word. Also, why is this on the talk page for Giovanni Kean? I'm assuming this is about Moise Kean. Aikclaes (talk) 16:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Aikclaes, I know you removed it at Moise, it applies to both, but I brought it here since removed the whole thing from this page. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 16:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Aha, okay. Aikclaes (talk) 16:31, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * it’s perfectly needless to have stress mark for monosyllabic names when they are on their own, though in this case it is also about how the two names interact with each other; if we imagined it were a single word, it would sound more like than, just as we would have  instead of  for San Marco. :) Though I don’t think there are specific community rules about this. [[File:Italy.png]]  イヴァン スクルージ 九十八 （会話）[[File:Italy.png]] 16:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with you when it comes to your IPA examples. Still, it looks weird having a stess mark in a monosyllabic word, even if there's another IPA word next to it. What if both were monosyllabic? Anyway, I hope someone can find what the Wiki rules are for this. Aikclaes (talk) 16:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * so you agree in cases like these? We could take up the issue and start proposing this as the standard. [[File:Italy.png]] イヴァン スクルージ 九十八 （会話）[[File:Italy.png]] 16:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it's useful to have an IPA for both words and one for each word individually. I'm pretty sure there already is a standard for this somewhere. Aikclaes (talk) 16:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Cool, but I don’t think we should have a separate IPA just for without the stress mark here, since the word already speaks for itself. It could go well for cases different from these though. [[File:Italy.png]]  イヴァン スクルージ 九十八 （会話）[[File:Italy.png]] 17:13, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Exactly because there are cases, for instance Sven-Göran Eriksson, where the first name, "Sven-Göran", is stressed very differently if said alone compared to if said together with the last name. It would be great if we could note this, but it would probably mean too much IPA. Aikclaes (talk) 03:00, 9 April 2019 (UTC)