Talk:Go God Go XII

What?
Is this really verifiable:


 * In the scene with the close-up of the Crank Prank Timephone box the phrase "Mike Hunt" can be seen on the box. This is a pun on the phrase "My Cunt"

I would imagine this is just a guess at best. -- Ubergenius 15:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed, "Mike Hunt" was actually on the box, and it's a fairly old joke that is already mentioned on the Mike Hunt page. --Dachannien 21:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Name
It should be included in the article that the name is a parody on the naming issue of Go, God. Go!.

The XII is a reference to Final Fantasy XII. It has nothing to do with anything else. FF XII was the corporate sponsor of the first episode. Tdewey 23:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Where is your source? Is it verifiable? 60.242.25.74 05:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't that bit of info be added then?

When I saw the title of this episode on my Tivo I thought the same thing (after having played the game all day (-: ). But I wonder if there is a connection. Would someone please find out and post the results? The only FFXII similarity I noticed in the episode was the bird riding. Of course the birds were ostriches instead of chocobos, but could there exist an abstract connection? Probably not (-:

Might the XII have something to do with the fact that there seemed to be a lot of episodes skipped over? The last episode ended with Cartman with the UAA, then to start this episode, he is with the sea otters travelling to get the Wii. If you watch the parodied theme introduction, you see lots of scenes not in either episode.

Its named XII becuase of how many diffrent plots happen in the episode.Pacman 18:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

it is named XII so people would endlessly debate why it was named that, until there is some kind of source keep the debates to the discussion page and not in the article KarlJohannes 06:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, everyone's saying "it's named because of blah blah blah" while none of you have any verification, until someone actually coughs up something we should hold off on the name debate.

Roman numerals were used long before the Final Fantasy series. Just because the game had the same numerals doesn't mean there is a definite connection. Maybe later you guys will be saying it's also linked to the Rocky movies because it also used Roman numerals. Or the Star Wars films. My theory is (and it's only a thought, I'm not saying it with any certainty) maybe it is a play on the name Wii. The letter X is after the letter W, and because the episode is set in the future, maybe that's grounds for it. -  Deep  Shadow  04:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I think the name is a reference to Star Wars, i.e. when George Lucas made 'Star Was Episode IV' he chose to make one of the middle Episodes first, even knowing that there may never be another one made just to make it more interesting. There are XII different "episodes" to the Go God Go story, and they only show parts one and XII. Like another user stated previously there are many references that would lead you to believe that there were many adventures between the two episodes. I could go into detail and list them, but only if necessary. That seems to me to be by far the most likely reasoning behind the title. Ytdb 04:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Fools! You all have different answers to the Ultimate Question! I must kill you all! The fact that it is an absurdist comedy show implies that there is no reason for anything, other than to be funny. The XII is in he title because it's more absurd than "Part II," and plus maybe because it's futuristic and futuristic things in fiction tend to have high numbers (like, "[Insert Future Technological Device Here] 2000" or something). That is the most rational answer--kill all the heretics! Mac  OS X  10:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The name is to signify that there is a large gap in time between episode 12 and 13. the question was asked on the south park studios website. http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/faq/archives.php?month=2&year=2010 70.110.246.195 (talk) 03:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * the SPS faq URLs have changed, now try http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/faq/2010/feb (HOWEVER, in case it changes again in the "future" (ha, ha) quote: "The reason that it skips from "Go God Go" to "Go God Go XII" is because Matt and Trey wanted it to seem like a lot of time had passed since the "first" episode. Hence it being "Go God Go 12," not "Go God Go 2." ps - I also think that Part IV would be awesome, but Part X would blow your mind." 75.158.104.172 (talk) 06:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Name of otter atheists
I believe there is a mistake here! AAA is not Allied Atheist Alliance, but Allied Atheist Allegiance, as it is metioned at the end of Go God Go! It seems Matt and Trey are confusing the names of the AAA! Can't somebody fix it, for once?! --Angeldeb82 03:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well every mention of the otters in the second episode said Allied Atheist Alliance, including the part when the "Great Question" was being debated. There could be a note that the name was changed but it seems that sometime during the production of the second episode, they settled for them being an alliance rather than an allegiance. Gdo01 03:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * So it seems that Matt and Trey did make a mistake at the end of Go God Go, when they mentioned the Allied Atheist Allegiance instead of Alliance. I just hope they correct the mistake they had made for the AAA at the end of Part I. --Angeldeb82 03:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * They are called Allied Atheist Allegiance. The reason is because when the UAL is attacked by the UAA in the first episode, Cartman asks who they are and the UAL calls them the Alliance Atheists. If the otters were also called the Alliance Atheists then there would be no way to distinguish the two factions. I'd say it was a mistake in the second episode, not the first. -  Deep  Shadow  09:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Despite this, they are still consistently called Allied Atheist Alliance in this episode. This episode might have made a mistake but it was consistent with the mistake. Gdo01 09:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

So we shall leave it as it is until we get official word of the mistake? -  Deep  Shadow  09:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with adding a note or something in the text though the fact that it is a mistake might not be notable. Gdo01 09:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps this "mistake" isn't a mistake at all, it may be attributed to the fact that the timeline in the episode changed once Cartman started calling the past, so maybe their name changed slightly with other minor differences.

after reviewing the episode, they refer to them as the alliance before the timeline changes therefore i highly recommend adding it as a goof, as there appears to be no reason besides a mistake on the part of the producers for the name change KarlJohannes 22:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, if there is supposed to be a time "continuium" between the two episodes then the name of the group could have changed. More likely it was a goof, but there is always that possibility.

Plot Synopsis
way too long. IT NEEDS TO BE summarized andd NOT STATE everything that exactly happend.


 * Indeed. Also very poorly written. I added the cleanup tag and will check back. If no improvement I'll do my best. Mount Molehill 05:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, trimmed it down a bit. Left cleanup tag in place so that others can decide if this is worthy or sufficient. Mount Molehill 05:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

References?
There are some references to other shows that aren't captured. For instance, the Star Trek type video conference. There are many I don't understand- like riding the ostriches. Tedder 06:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

it seems a lot of the references people are making are just general future references like the otters battle rifle, i dont think parker and stone were tryiing to hybridize aliens and halo but rahter were just giving them a generic battle rifle. New new hampshire is your standard ruined city of the past that so many different future shows have, i dont think this episode is a carbon copy of individual shows but rather a commentary on the entire genre of futurism. Of course there are some clear references mostly buck rogers, but i really think the whole reference section is too long and too filled with peoples own pet hobbies and interests and not reflective of the intent of the show's creators. KarlJohannes 06:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

the ostriches remind me of the gungans riding kaadu in the star wars movie: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kaadu and the search for the wii in the old museum is like the cowboy bebop episode 'speak like a child'

New New Hampshire is probably a reference to the New New York of "Futurama". If no one has a problem, I'll add it.

The commercial just before the one for the phone looks like it could be a reference to the comic book "Plastic Forks".

criticism section
I am not writing this from a biased standpoint, but rather a standpoint of logical difference. Please all interested in this page seriously consider adding the following section, permanently, to this page:


 * ==Criticism==
 * Neither atheism nor secular humanism promote the positivist maxim that beliefs founded on unobservables are inherently meaningless. Thus, the subtext of this episode -- that atheism somehow negates, ipso facto, meaning unfounded on scientific principles -- is missconstructed and misleading.
 * The idea that simply believing in something makes it "real" (as proffered by the wise otter) is a naïve type of philosophical idealism or subjectivism. Dogmatic belief has long been considered a root cause of sociopolitical upheaval and is not newly attributed to Dawkins, e.g., "believing" that WMD were in Iraq, in the absence of significant empirical evidence, was arguably the basis of a war.
 * While the "flying spaghetti monster" may sound like a strawman attack on religiosity, there is a well-developed principle behind this argument by metaphor, namely, Sir Karl Popper's principle of falsifiability.


 * This section violates WP:OR since you are interpreting the meaning of the episode and trying to refute it. Anyway, almost every criticism section of an article has citations from credible sources. Yours is not an exception. Gdo01 12:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Given the nature and timing of this medium -- no publications exist referring to this episode, as yet -- I must produce my own research in the form of verifiable criticisms referring directly to content in the episode, which is allowed by wikipedia policy. I use credible citations in the form of links to arguments that directly contradict what I believe are inherently mistaken assumptions in this episode. If I need to be more explicit and remove certain insinuating phrases, I can do this easily and still maintain the primary criticism. Also, please refrain from reductio ad absurdum as your basis for criticizing my proposed addition. If we were to take your position as categorically binding, Wikipedia would lose much valuable content. As an example, we would have to remove the Cultural References section since it has no published material supporting its claims, however verifiable they may be. I would not delete a "support" section for this episode on the same grounds.
 * Since no publications exist yet referring to the episode, why not publish your own outside of Wikipedia and then link to it? Or, wait until an article is posted that refutes points made in the episode and refer to that. As it stands now, this list clearly violates WP:NPOV, and I have removed it from the main page. 67.183.67.29 13:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * How does the list "clearly" violate NPOV? I'm asking in a neutral tone, btw :) Pfhyde 22:27, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It is written in such a way that the article itself takes a side in the debate, in fact it looks as though the section itself criticizes the episode, rather than relating the criticism of others. Calling a philosophy naïve is not a matter of fact but of opinion, no matter how you choose to dress it up. 67.183.67.29 03:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Again, I believe this is symptomatic of disconfirmation bias. Calling a philosophy naïve is standard practice for professional philosophic exchange, and it does not carry vernacular connotations, e.g., it is commonplace to call certain philosophies naïve, such as naïve realism for example, as well as to distinguish between "strong" and "weak" philosophies, but again, the connotations are not vernacular. Pfhyde 22:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I agree that this has no place in Wikipedia. All your points are commentaries on your interpretation of the episode and belong on a discussion forum rather than Wikipedia.  While I agree that, for example, the Cultural references section does not conform 100% to Wikipedia's standards, there is a big difference between this section and your proposed section.  I would imagine there to be widespread consensus with regards to the parallels between the episode and each cultural reference, I can't imagine people seeing the same level of relevance in your points.  To go down the (probably slippery) debating road, let's take your point #3.  The FSM was not even mentioned in this episode, rather its appearance was in the previous one Go God Go.  The relevant line in that episode was, "What if I told you there was a Flying Spaghetti Monster?  Would you believe it because it can't be disproven?", which certainly does not warrant a critisism.  Are you suggesting that the entire FSM argument needs to be spelled out for the viewers, to avoid being critisised on Wikipedia?  Also, this was the opinion (or statement) of a character in an episode, not necessarily that of the writers of the episode.  Are you suggesting that all debatable opinions of characters in works of fiction should be refuted in Wikipedia?  Finally, please sign your comments with four tildas (~). NumberJunkie 14:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

This argurament is irrevalant. The proposed critism section is purely the opinions of someone (who i don't know because he/she never signs their comments) and not actuall ctritism from a source. For example, Janet Jacksons super bowl 38 incident was critisized because over 50,000 people complained to the FCC. Noone has stirred up contaversy on this yet, so the personal opinions of users (who need to start signing comments) is useless for this article. And it probally doesn't make sense with most of wikipedia users anyway. Pacman 18:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * First, you need to understand the difference between opinion and logical analysis. My arguments are not opinions and they are quite relevant. Second, I might agree that my criticism section should be published externally and then linked to this site. Perhaps this is the Wikipedia way to go about things. I don't know. I'm new to Wikipedia policies and conventions. In response to NumberJunky, this is a two-part episode to be considered as a whole; this is why I appended the criticism section to the end of the second episode. Which makes sense, does it not? As for the spaghetti monster argumentative metaphor, it is clear that the writers of this episode (whom I often admire) are trivializing the logical import of the metaphor. The sarcastic tones used, combined with the overall subtext of the episode, taken as a whole, make it clear that the writers of this episode hold naïve views about the serious philosophical problems of this episode (this is not always the case, mind you); specifically, I'm referring to the problem of demarcating between science and metaphysics (or pseudoscience) and all of the relevant consequences therewith. If you were familiar with the work of Popper and falsifiability I believe you would understand the validity of my criticism vis-à-vis this episode. But of course I am wasting my time debating the issue -- it seems this section of Wikipedia is controlled by an ochlocracy :) And thank you for teaching me how to sign off, btw. Pfhyde 21:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth I understand and agree with much of your philosophical views. I consider myself both an atheist and a humanist, and I know the criteria that is needed for scientific theory and why untestable hypotheses should not be considered as such.  However, I maintain that your section does not belong in this article.  While your points may be fair, it is your opinion that the writers of the article directly implied an argument that differs from yours, and as such violates WP:NPOV.  Indeed, I felt that Matt and Trey probably do understand the deeper implications of the FSM argument, and I welcomed the reference to it in an Intelligent Debate-related episode.  But come on, the only way to avoid 'trivialising' it is to spend a few minutes explaining what this really means, which is really not expected in a 22 minute comedy show.  Can you imagine if all shows had to elaborate on every single reference to an idea with deeper meanings (especially comedies!)?  Also, the citation needed usually has to be from a respected journal or news source, so you can't just write something about it on your personal home page and reference that.  Finally, no probs on the signature tip.  Welcome to Wikipedia :) NumberJunkie 23:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I concede that my section may not belong to this article, and I'd rather not belabor peripherally related subjects, but I would like to remind you that there is a marked difference between "opinion" and other, more substantiated forms of belief (see The Fixation of Belief, for example). Moreover, it doesn't matter what the writers of South Park believe independent of their show; this is not at issue. What matters in this case is the objectification of content in this particular episode, which maintains certain theses that are unambiguously presented and clearly implied. There is only one subtext for this episode, and it is not my opinion to point out its existence. Matt and Trey may very well understand the "deeper implications" of FSM, but I am not conjecturing anything about their beliefs. The explicit subtext (if you'll pardon a seeming oxymoron) is that this episode trivializes the significance of TSM by caricaturing its significance -- "Oh my god, it all makes sense now. God is just a FSM" (I'm paraphrasing), etc. The explicit subtext, therefore, is that Mrs. Garrison is an ignoramus for drawing such "self evidently stupid" snap judgments about TSM vis-à-vis god. Are you suggesting otherwise? All that said, and I'm afraid I've already gone beyond my intended length, I appreciate your evenhanded criticism and help with Wikipedia policy and conventions. I'll keep an eye out for a "real publication" on the subject (perhaps one by myself, who knows), but I feel that that makes little difference regarding the policy of Wikipedia. I've seen a number of pages -- the page for the daily show, for example -- that list criticism without citing any published material. So clearly this is an inconsistency and seems to vary depending on who's watching. Pfhyde 00:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll quickly address your points: I disagree that the episode's subtext is as clear-cut as you make out, rather it is open to some degree of interpretation (as subtexts generally are). Your interpretation of Mrs. Garrison's misunderstanding of a small part of the FSM argument is that the episode trivialises FSM; my interpretation of this scene is that some people are just idiots.  Anyway, you'll find as you use Wikipedia that there is a fair amount of material that strictly shouldn't be allowed (a lot of it appears in popular culture-related articles).  Wikipedia isn't perfect, but the rules are in place to try to ensure it comes close and most Wikipedians will try to ensure that as much of the content as possible adhears to these rules.  Incidentally, on checking the article for The Daily Show, I saw 8 references to external links in the 'Critisisms' section. NumberJunkie 02:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course there are references in the DS criticism section. I didn't say there WEREN'T any, just that there are assertions that have no support by external material whatever, "Many critics say . . . " (no citation). As for your interp., "there are just idiots," well -- all I can say is "wow." If it's really that simple to you, I have nothing more to say of practical value. Pfhyde 11:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Meh? Whatever, I really don't care anymore. 138.38.32.84 15:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

What about the horrible way in which the series treats transsexuals? I doubt the real Richard Dawkins would care if someone he was in love with is a transsexual - he doesn't share Matt and Trey's bigotry.


 * Some of the worst arguments against atheism ever. I'm not an atheist myself but I'm not hugely far off the mark. The problem is that we know for a fact that people who are enthralled with science don't fight over it in the same manner those enthralled with religion do. It's a very "centrist" thing, presuming both things are equal opposites.


 * Matt and Trey are not, I believe, implying that scientists fight just like religious people. Their point is that atheism is a religion just like any other, and so will faction and fight like any other.  There is an interesting speech by Michael Crichton that, while not 100% relevant, makes a similar point.  He's talking about environmentalism, and how it has become one of the new religions of atheists.  It can be found at his website, http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches/index.html, and is called "Environmentalism as Religion." Professor Chaos 21:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is another subtextual position of Matt and Trey, and here too they belie naïveté. Atheism by definition cannot be a religion, because it does not rely on unfalsifiable, dogmatic assumptions. Religion by definition is either one of three things: theism, animatism, or animism, all of which depend on metaphysical (non-scientific) propositions. Pfhyde 22:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the point is that if one substitutes biblical texts and Church officials with scientific journals and scientists, Christianity and atheism are not entirely dissimilar in their members' faith. It is flawed to assume that currently accepted scientific beliefs (or more frequently pop science) at any given point are infallible because they are based on what, if one is a true believer in science or religion, are our primitive and incapable means by which to understand the world around us. On a personal note, the atheists I've met are much more interested in pushing their views on others than the religious.
 * The principle of Christianity is that God is infallible. Science does not build centers to glorify; it builds centers to educate.
 * Please follow WP:NPOV. --Ineffable3000 22:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please tell me how my original proposed entry does not follow NPOV. I was mindful of this principle, in general, when writing my original entry. Or are you suggesting in the discussion section I have to also follow NPOV? :) Pfhyde 22:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the discussion. It appears to be very attacking and extremely non-neutral. --Ineffable3000 01:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe that's what you call disconfirmation bias. Pfhyde 23:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

PfHyde, WP:NPOV is not the main issue- No Original Research is. Please read that carefully. Borisblue 03:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the inclusion of this piece simply because it breaks the above linked policy. Original Research isn't for wikipedia.  This is CLEARLY original research and no criticism section (or "response" section for that matter) is better then one with OR. Chris M. 05:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe the criticism section can be added once this has been revised to follow the guidelines. I believe the criticisms have objective merit. Kralizec 23:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will try to rewrite the section following Wikipedia guidelines. It may take some time, however, to accumulate enough verifiable citation, but it will happen, eventually. Pfhyde 23:11, 10 November 2006 (

I'm not much with editing this thing, so forgive me if this is out of line, but the show doesn't treat transsexuals in a horrible way- just Garrison and his/her absurd jumps from one minority to another. Guessing what the real Dawkins would have done is irrelevant to the point of the episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.103.49 (talk) 01:22, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

K-10 reference removed
Come now, isn't it blindingly obvious to any speaker of English slash watcher of Western television media? K-10 is a play on K-9, which is both Canine, and an abbreviation used in quite alot of TV shows and movies.
 * Should a K-10 reference be added to K-9 from the TV series Dr. Who? K-10 from south park looks pretty similar to K-9 from Dr. Who (just the head anyway)... perhaps in south park it was named K-10 to avoid copyright infringement?  See K-9_%28Doctor_Who%29.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.228.80.44 (talk) 16:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Kit-9 would be a play on K-10, where the number is misplaced (Kit-10 would be kitten).
 * I actually didn't realize the joke until I read that reference, so just because you recognized it doesn't mean it doesn't belong in the article. 67.183.67.29 12:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You forgot to mention that when Cartman breaks up with Ms. Garrison and Mr. Dawkins, the Kit-9 changes into COCKA-3 along with the entire future. COCKA-3 is a play on cockatoo, with the "too" being the "2" plus 1!  Get it? --Angeldeb82 01:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Problems
I see two problems with my article as of this moment: November 2006 (UTC) --Ineffable3000 06:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The plot summary is still excessively long.
 * There are numerous links to articles on philosophy in "External Links"
 * I've now fixed one problem, and will soon fix the other. --MasterA113 13:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see a problem with the plot summary. It is a complex episode and as such needs a detailed plot.

Gratz
This article is a fantastic resource about a fantastic episode. I had no idea the cultural refernces went so deep. Keep up the good work, nerds! --216.57.222.134 21:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Paradox in article

 * "Aside from the fact that backwards time travel is impossible, Cartman travelling back to before Go God Go would cause an even larger paradox. The end of the episode implies that Cartman is going to freeze himself again. Yet if he did this and woke up in the future, he would not be able to call his past self from the future."

Can someone please explain how this is a paradox? Whoever wrote this claims that Cartman could not call his past self from the future (because the author thinks his past self will be frozen?) but, in the future with the prank call phone, Cartman could use the phone to call himself (at a time prior to him freezing himself)just by selecting how far back in time he wanted to call (a feature offered on the phone). Because of that, I don't see how he would be unable to call himself. If anyone else agrees the quote is incorrect, we should probably pull this. If anyone else agrees with the quote, please explain.
 * I understand the paradox the author was going for, but regardless, that paradox is OR, and should be removed for that reason alone. Chris M. 03:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Army of Darkness reference
"Cartman crying out that he has been sent back too far is reminiscent of the director's cut of Army of Darkness when Ash (Bruce Campbell) has been sent too far into the future (into a post-apocalyptic wasteland)."

first Ash is sent into the past, not the future and then the scene it is refering to is a very accurate copy of the beginning from Buck Rogers and the 25th century

216.113.99.43 01:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)shodan

-Actually, if you saw the last movie with its original theater ending, after taking one too many drops of a juice that causes him to sleep a 100 years per drop, Ash wakes up to find himself 100 years after his original time period. The world has become a desolate wasteland of garbage and random collapsed buildings (sort of like a giant junkyard mixed with a bunch of buildings.) It seems human life has ceased to exist at this point (pretty morbid if you consider it was only a 100 years into the future.)  Ash then curses the heavens that he was sent too far into time. The ending on the DVD release was a director's cut ending which gave the movie a happy ending due to the large criticism over the extremely anti-climactic, WTF original ending. In the new ending, Ash successfully reaches his own time period and resumes his life working at a department store with what appears to be two hands instead of just one. It ends with him telling one of his co-workers his story with the man not believing a word of it due to it obvious implausibility. -- PokeHomsar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.105.167 (talk) 04:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

k-10
I copied the text (slightly changed) from "Go God Go" (first part), because k-10's first appearence is in "Go God Go XII" I hope I haven't done any mistake. But if this is the case, please forgive a German student, because this is the first time I changed something in the English Wikipedia. Thank you! Big-B_36 19:05, Dec.26th 2006 (CET)

XII?
Can someone explain why it is called go god go XII, which is roman numerals for twelve? The first time i watched this episode I thought It was a twelve part continuing series like the The Simpsons Treehouse Of Horror series. Why isn't it called II?
 * It's explained in the disscusion. — 84.139.41.68 07:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The simple answer is no one knows Nil Einne (talk) 13:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge
I see no reason in merging this article with Go God Go. If nobody has any objections, I'll remove the request of a discussion, since none has been carried out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anothervessla (talk • contribs) 03:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Brief scene
I have just seen this episode on southparkstudios.com. On 6:07, when Eric is viewing commercials, there is a brief scene viewing a black newsspeaker next to a picture saying "Under attack" in red letters on a fiery background. Is that a reference to anything?--88.77.50.165 (talk) 00:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Cultural References and OR
Any cites for these?


 * The three Atheist groups in the future (Allied Atheist Alliance, United Atheist Alliance, Unified Atheist League) are a reference to the Judean socialist resistance groups in Monty Python's Life of Brian (The Judean People's Front, the People's Front of Judea, and the Judean Popular People's Front), in turn a parody of various left-wing poltical groups in 1970s Britain.
 * The Crank Prank Timephone, and the radio interference heard during its use, is a reference to the film Frequency.
 * Cartman and K-10 ("Bob")'s entry into the house of the boys with the time phone, is similar to a scene in Terry Gilliam's Brazil, where two mechanics comically try to enter Sam Lowry's house to fix the AC system.
 * The name of each of Cartman's robotic animals plays its species. The dog is called K-10 (a play on K-9, canine), the cat is called Kit-9 (a play on Kit-10, kitten), and the bird is called Cocka-3 (a play on Cocka-2, cockatoo).
 * The upside-down flying machine was used by George McFly in Back to the Future Part II.
 * The way Cartman is sent back to the present with rings coming down onto him is very much the same as the teleportation device in Stargate.

If so, we'll add them to the main article again. Alastairward (talk) 10:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

What exactly do you want as a "cite"? Do you need like actual evidence, or do you want someone in an article saying it? I mean, the Buck Rogers thing is blatantly obvious, but I'm not sure how I'd "cite" it to satisfactory standards. - Anon


 * What's the difference between actual evidence and something in an article saying it? If it's verifiable, add it. Although looking at the article page, someone already added the reference (from the show's writers no less) some time ago. Alastairward (talk) 16:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleted episode??
There is an information about serie between two parts, that was banned for its cruelty. It has a scene when Cartman make sex with two otters. Is it fake or real? 31.42.227.206 (talk) 19:02, 3 August 2015 (UTC)