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Title Reference

Is there anything to support the notion that the title "Godfellas" was in any way based on "The Godfather" ? More likely Goodfellas, eh?

Can I add the quote (Bender): "First I was God, then I met God..."


"The title is a pun on the title of the film Goodfellas, referring to the space pirates..."

Are you absolutely sure about that? I think it's rather related to Bender having been a God and God himself talking as "fellow Gods" (or Godfellas).


Gulliver's Travels[edit]

Why isn't "Gulliver's Travels" mentioned in this entry?! Something very small then contrasted by something very big? I'm pretty sure I'm not making this up. jcm 11/26/11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.231.249.137 (talk) 03:14, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Space God[edit]

Hi, I think its a political correction and justice to this space entity if we refer to it, as Space God. If anyone that has a question, please state your question below my sentences. Thank you in advanced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.23.209 (talk) 05:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Goofs[edit]

Does the fact that there IS God in this episode yet in "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid" it states there is a Big Bang and that "every religion is wrong!" seem to trouble anyone? Go Futurama! User:Sp3000 07:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was never established in this episode that the being bender meets IS God, only that it probably COULD be God--Tiberius47 07:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC).[reply]
That is true, "God" never states he IS god but, he does make statements like "there are so many, asking for so much. After a while you just...." This refers to the prayers of the people. Anyway, how else did "god" get the backpack on Bender or be able to speak English? Go Futurama! User:Sp3000 11:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There could be a God and a big bang and every religion could still be wrong. The exact meaning isn't really made clear. We also have to be wary of violating WP:OR and WP:V. Stardust8212 15:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we can quote the appropriate part from the episode transcript? The discussion between Bender and the galaxy thing happens quite compactly, within about ten lines. And it would give the original information from the episode to let readers decide for themselves.--Tiberius47 23:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I dunno, I'd prefer not to include it but as always that's just my opinion. Stardust8212 01:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, and if God in Futurama universe made the big bang, and ever religion ever proceeded to get the entire thing wrong, the whole thing is still valid. No contradiction. 68.97.181.129 (talk) 04:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a story by[edit]

It doesn't really resemble the "The Microcosmic God" all that much, but does closely resemble a story by Alan Dean Foster. I've changed the reference.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harry Mudd (talk • contribs) 21:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Unsourced Cultural references removed[edit]

I'm removing the unsourced cultural references in order to work towards GA status and for the various reasons discussed in detail at WT:FUTU. If you can add a reliable source for this info feel free to do so in order to add it back to the article. Stardust8212 04:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural references[edit]

  • The title is a pun on the title of the film GoodFellas, referring to the space pirates who set the episode's plot in motion, and Bender's newfound identity as a deity.
  • The opening subtitle "PLEASE TURN OFF ALL CELL PHONES AND TRICORDERS" refers to the Star Trek invention. The message itself is a parody of the announcement commonly made in theaters before a show begins, and on airplanes before takeoff.
  • Fry fires on the pirate ship with an arcade machine as a proxy.
  • Fry uses a rotary phone dial to accidentally fire Bender out of the ship.
  • The tune that Bender plays on the piano while he sings is Chopin's Polonaise in C Minor.
  • While playing the piano, Bender says "Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee", a reference to the famous quote "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee", from a sermon by John Donne.
  • Bender's main disciple is Malachi, named after a Biblical figure whose name reflects his character: "God's messenger".
  • When the robot "Helper" tries to cheer up Fry by telling him that Bender is back, he explains that Fry was happy for a brief moment; this resembles the Isaac Asimov short story "Liar!"
  • The beer brewed by the Shrimpkins is Lordweiser, a reference to Budweiser. Malachi tells Bender the Löwenbräu slogan, "Tonight is kind of special."
  • Bender floating in space to "Also sprach Zarathustra" and to the "Blue Danube Waltz" is a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey.
  • Bender looks underneath a building with a sign that says "Ezekiel's nasty house", a reference to the biblical character Ezekiel.
  • Bender speculates that the intelligence he meets might be "The remains of a space probe that collided with God." This most likely refers to either V'Ger from Star Trek: The Motion Picture or Nomad from the Star Trek episode "The Changeling".
  • Before Bender is floating through space (after the Helper scene), a cluster of stars form an image of what appears to be Fry.
  • When Bender carves a message should he be found later, the image carved bears a strong resemblance to plaques on the Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 spacecraft, specifically the Pioneer plaque which contained a message from humanity to any extraterrestrials which may later find the craft. The difference is he carves a giant version of himself on it as well.
Might I recreate it (below), omitting those that seem unneeded or unlikely? Mack-the-random (talk) 09:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural references[edit]

  • The title is a pun on the title of the film GoodFellas, referring to the space pirates who set the episode's plot in motion, and Bender's newfound identity as a deity.
  • The opening subtitle "PLEASE TURN OFF ALL CELL PHONES AND TRICORDERS" refers to the Star Trek invention. The message itself is a parody of the announcement commonly made in theaters before a show begins, and on airplanes before takeoff.
  • The tune that Bender plays on the piano while he sings is Chopin's Polonaise in C Minor.
  • While playing the piano, Bender says "Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee", a reference to the famous quote "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee", from a sermon by John Donne.
  • Bender's main disciple is Malachi, named after a Biblical figure whose name reflects his character: "God's messenger".
  • When the robot "Helper" tries to cheer up Fry by telling him that Bender is back, he explains that Fry was happy for a brief moment; this resembles the Isaac Asimov short story "Liar!"
  • I'm pretty shure the "God" thing is a reference to the short story "The last question" by Isaac Asimov —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.187.208 (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added back the reference to the climax of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Now there is a link film's page, and no spoiling of the plot of the film. Obsessiveatbest (talk) 09:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kyaiktiyo Pagoda?[edit]

Wikipedia article here: Kyaiktiyo

"Monastery of Teshuvah" has an obvious resemblance to the Kyaiktiyo Pagoda. Would that count as an unsourced cultural reference, if it is even a cultural reference at all.

Chinthe 70.105.154.34 (talk) 16:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of whether it is a cultural references it is unsourced analysis of the episode and thus does not belong in the article as it could be classified as original research. If there is a reliable source which discusses this similarity then it would be perfectly reasonable to include it in the article. Stardust8212 19:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Atheist vs. Infidels[edit]

Malachi calls those on Bender's back 'infidels' not 'atheists'- "My Lord, the infidels on your back no longer believe in you."Source There is a marked difference between these words, both implicitly and explicitly, each carrying a different set of connotations. Should the article use the word 'infidel' to preserve those connotations, that the 'unfaithful' do not believe in Bender as god not necessarily an outright rejection of god, perhaps a parody of conflict between faiths' differing definitions of god and not necessarily just conflict between atheists and the religious? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.55.220 (talk) 01:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gift of a Useless Man[edit]

The following text has been removed from the article multiple times due to not meeting wikipedia's requirements for a reliable source and verifiability.

The bulk of the episode depicting Bender and the creatures living on his body strongly resembles the short story Gift of a Useless Man by Alan Dean Foster, which also depects a ne'er do well man rendered helpless in a crash landing, and then surrounded by tiny aliens who he helps to build a civilization[1].

I cannot verify that this Amazon book review even exists, the only place on Amazon where this story seems to be published is in a collection of short stories and there are no official Amazon.com reviews there only customer reviews. Customer reviews are not reliable sources. Also a text search of the page provides no reference to Futurama which would be a requirement to claim the two were in some way related. If this information is to be included in the article please provide a reliable source which gives this information. Stardust8212 14:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion on ANI currently regarding the user responsible for the addition of this material. I support its removal given that it appears to be nothing more than OR. Doniago (talk) 14:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The user who is repeatedly adding the above information has engaged me on my talk page at User talk:Stardust8212#Godfellas and I have requested he come to this page for any further discussion. Stardust8212 13:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Amazon book review, 2002

Season 3 or 4?[edit]

The right panel shows this episode as "Season Four Episode 8" but under "Broadcast and reception" is the following sentence:

The Reno Gazette-Journal called the episode amazing and noted it as one of the prime episodes in season four (although the episode is actually from the third season).

The Futurama episodes navigation at the bottom also shows this episode in season 3.

FWIW IMDB shows it as season 4

--Trails (talk) 18:24, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The entire seasoning thing at the bottom is wrong. All Futurama episodes were released on DVD by their production order rather than the order and season in which they aired, which is why the DVD boxsets are called Volume 1-4 rather than Season 1-5. The navigation bar at the bottom shows the order of the episodes on the DVDs, which isn't the official way to order them into seasons. Also, season 5 in the navigation bar refers to the 4 Futurama movies. Officially, these are not part of the TV series at all. 213.66.122.5 (talk) 10:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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