Talk:Gordon Freeman/Archive 1

Half-Life 2? Anyone?
Half-Life 2? Anyone? -- towo 20:15, 2004 Jun 29 (UTC)
 * nothing is known of HL2 regarding the story, even just when it happens is not for sure, wait for the game and then write about it. -- Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   20:50, 2004 Sep 12 (UTC)

University of Innsbruck
I just looked into the handbook and it states, that Gordon worked at the Institute for Experimental Physics at the University of Innsbruck prior to his job at Black Mesa. Shouldn't this be included?

G-Man
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 * Plus, if the player activate a cheat code for looking through walls, one can see through the G-Man’s briefcase, which contains two "samples". -- I didn't check this one personally. Some may confirm? There are two textures for each side of the inside of the briefcase, which can at least be seen using the editing tools. I don't remember whether it was possible to use noclip to view them, too. Half-Life 2, anyone? Isn't Freeman meeting an old friend in that one?

I checked on this and it's not true. Inside was an unreadable ID card. I've also played and beaten HL2 and theres no reason to support this. K1Bond007 06:51, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)

About Gordon Freeman
How come he can't even talk? Did he lost his voice or something? Is he really a protagonist, or an alien that it is inside him? Does he have a family? Why he cannot say just one word? He is not the only one with voice problems. Can anyone tell me why Gordon Freeman cannot talk? Best Gamer 9 August 2006


 * I expect this link will answer some of your querys, Half-Life 2 Narration. In short, he has not lost his voice, he does not speak to the NPCs because you Best Gamer are not speaking to them. He is the protagonist, and not an alien. There may be details about his family elsewhere, I do not know of them off hand, but I do not believe he has familial ties. As soon as Valve can introduce software that interperates the players speech, he might speak to NPCs. It's not that he is mute, he just doesn't talk. Simple. --Colossus 86 23:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I do hope not any of the other characters from Half-Life games might notice that he has not spoken one word. But thanks anyway. We might get more info when Half-Life: Episodes 1 & 2 are yet to be revealed. Best Gamer 9 August 2006


 * Of course they notice, they have even joked about it; "Man of few words eh Doctor?" etc. Also I trust it was simply a typo, but you realise that Episode 1 has been out since 01/06/06 right? Furthermore, It is highly unlikely that Valve will break away from the current style of narration for Episodes 2 & 3, the "more info" that we receive will concentrate on the plot rather than Gordon's unwillingness to talk, of that you can be certain. --Colossus 86 08:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Made-up info?
What is the source for: and and
 * "His thesis was entitled Observation of Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Entanglement on Supraquantum Structures by Induction Through Nonlinear Transuranic Crystal of Extremely Long Wavelength (ELW) Pulse from Mode-Locked Source Array"
 * "Freeman harbored an early interest in theoretical physics, such as quantum mechanics and relativity. After observing a series of teleportation experiments conducted by the Institute of Experimental Physics, applications of teleportation became Freeman's obsession. Eventually, he became disappointed with the slow pace of teleportation research in academia and began to search for a job in the private sector."
 * " Freeman had actually not handled any weapons until the Black Mesa incident (aside from the butane-powered tennis ball cannon he constructed at age 6)"

I don't recall reading these details before. If they're made-up by the contributor, they should be removed. This is an encyclopedia of existing information, not a place to put your own speculation as (fictional) fact.

Also, as a frequenter of planethalflife.com and halflife2.net forums, I really don't think that "many fans believe" that the train at the start of HL2 is the same one as the one at the end of HL1. There was one thread on the HL2.net forums, and that was pretty comprehensively shot down. pomegranate 15:49, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)


 * That info is in the Half-Life 2 Strategy Guide by Prism, which was apparently Valve-licensed. Jordi·✆ 07:10, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay then. But I think you mean Prima ;) pomegranate 15:31, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)


 * It patently is NOT the same train. One of them is traversing time and space, and the other is a regular commuter. In HL2 one of the characters on the train remarks "I didn't see you get on", indicating that Freeman was inserted onto the train by the Gman. He who says zonk 13:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

What's the source for the beginning of Half-Life 2 being "set in Cardiff Castle"??? City 17 is almost certainly intended to be somewhere in Eastern Europe, based on the architecture and Cyrillic lettering everywhere. It's quite a stretch to say it's in Wales. -DynSkeet (talk) 13:54, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's just BS. My guess is Sofia, Bulgaria, but anywhere in Eastern Europe is correct. And where is Blackwood? It should say New Mexico. Thunderbrand 01:35, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * What a surprise, there's a Blackwood in Wales. I guess someone decided to do some subtle vandalism. -DynSkeet (talk) 11:50, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Splinter Cell
What's the gag in Splinter Cell that's alluded to in the article? Never having played it, I'm curious to know if it references HL directly, or just makes a passing reference to the professions of first person shooter protagonists.

Oh, and while it might be in some Prima guide, the setting of HL seems far more public sector / military than a private sector installation. Among other things, the range of activities carried out at Black Mesa is far more characteristic of a (public) military facility (decommissioning missiles; launching missiles; dealing with nuclear waste; teleporting aliens). Also, the scientists often say "there's goes our grant money", again more of a public sector remark (says a scientist working in the university sector). Anyway, just a passing remark. --Plumbago 16:44, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Playing through Chaos Theory again, but not at the point yet, so here's what I remember from my first time through. Fisher (player character) needs to lift the casing off of a missile battery to shut it down. He sarcastically informs HQ that he can't, because he didn't remember to bring his crowbar. Anna, who is communicating to him from HQ, says something to the effect of "Whatever... only geeky video game characters use crowbars." While SCCT is a great game, as a Half-Life fanboy, that kind of broke my heart a little :) Nufy8 17:49, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * And as for the sector, I agree. The grants the scientists refer to probably come from the government. That connection could explain the quickness in which the government responded to the accident.


 * I agree, there is never any indication that Black Mesa is a private facility during the game. I always believed it to be top secret, but governmental. He who says zonk 13:26, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah-ha. Thanks for responding so quickly. Sounds quite a nice little quip. I read it as a more affectionate name-check, than a put-down, but that's maybe just the sort of guy I am. It has got me thinking though if HL itself directly references any other games. Any ideas anyone? --Plumbago 21:41, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Never encountered any direct references (that I can remember), but there could be subtle allusions to other games. Half-Life alludes to a lot to movies, books, and TV shows, though, which has a good deal of influence on both games. Nufy8 01:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

I've put the Splinter Cell line you quoted onto the main page (I thought it was worth it). If you reach the part of SCCT where the line's repeated and it's different to what I've added, please make the change here. Afraid I don't have access to SCCT.

Have been racking my brains, but can't think of any direct referencing by HL. Obviously it borrows horror/science fiction staples such as "zombies", "face huggers", morally dubious scientists, military "clean-ups" and space aliens, but it doesn't rip off sources in the same way that, say, Doom or (especially) Duke Nukem 3D do. --Plumbago 09:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

MIT Directory entry
So was Gordon Freeman ever actually in the online MIT directory? ✈ James C. 20:50, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * I seem to recall that link leading to a Gordon Freeman, but either it was just a joke and someone said "right, this is getting silly" or the "real Gordon Freeman" graduated or got transferred to Black Mesa. ;) --Yar Kramer 01:30, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is a Gordon Freeman at MIT, but no, he does not going around smashing in skulls with a crowbar trying to save the world. CABAL 06:36, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * There is another Gordon Freeman from Harvard .--Name Theft Victim 21:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

(a/an) homage
"'homage' begins with a vowel sound." Not in American English, it doesn't. ;) ... um ... I think. --Yar Kramer 18:06, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's like "honor." Never heard it pronounced with the "h" sound. Nufy8 18:19, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * ...It's a silent 'h', since it's an anglicised french word. --^pirate 20:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

H.E.V. suit helmet
Does anyone know for sure if Gordon wears the H.E.V. suit's helmet? I personaly think so, because otherwise he would be unable to withstand any bullets to the head at all (and from my experience, he got shot in the head a lot). However there are still a few diehards out there who point to the concept art and scream "He's not wearing a helmet there!!!"

It would be nice to have this issue resolved.

24.238.131.186 03:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)Adam


 * Actually, you can see him not wearing it in Opposing Force -- both when he's racing towards the portal and, er, if you use a "noclip" cheat, follow him into Xen, and fly up to him standing on the "island" there. --Yar Kramer 17:52, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Also, his character model in HL1 DM was helmet-less (there being another model applicably named "helmet"), not to mention that the suit itself seems to be lacking a helmet in both HL1 and HL2 when you receive it, I believe. Nufy8 19:39, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I think Gordon puts on his helmet when he needs to. It would be logical for him to have a helmet, since you can hear the voice talking and beeping sounds. Also, Yar Kramer, you're not supposed to noclip in the game. Jetro 12:38, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Also, the third person mode in Half-Life (also activated via the console) depicts Gordon without a helmet, despite the fact that models with helmets on were available and could had been used instead. Illogically, we could also see Gordon in the suit before he even worn it in Sector C. ╫ 25 ring-a-ding  13:01, 2 December 2005 (UTC) ╫


 * And what about the fact, that (since he doesn't have the helmet in the game) his suite supplies oxygen while he's underwater? Does it submit it directly into his blood stream and somehow remove the carbone dioxide? [Haliski]


 * You can see a concept art thingamajiger of a woman wearing the HEV suit holding the helmet over here: http://www.planethalflife.com/nostalgia/halflife/artwork/gina.jpg 65.96.140.131 22:56, 13 March 2006 (UTC):


 * In the end of blueshift, when gordon is dragged across tha floor, is he having a helmet? Cybesystem 22:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶  15:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC) ╫

It is open to debate. I personally think he does. Concept art, multiplayer and the third person view can't be taken into acount as they are not part of the in-game story and view. In HL2 the thirdperson model is a grey blob if I remember correctly. Also the gloves of the HEV suit can't be seen before you put it on in HL1 but it clearly has them. The Opposing Force scene can be called into question by the already bad continuity in Gearbox's models. For instance in HL1 when you see the 'real' Barney he is clearly wearing armour. In the same scene in Blue Shift Barney does not have his armour yet. In Decay a security guard says to the player "You look good in orange" even though the 2 player models are in Red and Brown HEV suits. I don't trust Gearbox's models. --Rim-Fire 17:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

H.E.V. Suit
Has anyone noticed that Dr. Freeman was without his hazard suit at the start of the game (duh). Wasn't he allowed to keep it by the G-Man. If so, that means he was put into stasis with it. Why then does the game begin, without Freeman wearing it, and suddenly turns up in Kleiner's Lab.

thats a good point but if you think about it it was weird enough for him to just appear in the train if he had his suit on then total chaos could have broken lose. but also when you get your suit doesnt dr kliner say it was the same one with mods? that makes a good question?Chardrc 03:17, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Why would he start with it in Half-Life 2? It's in my understanding that theres a long time gap between the end of Half-Life and HL2, and that his new assignment given to him by G-Man (which is the whole hl2 plot) had just begun. The combine would have taken it anyways since their occupation of earth. [Haliski]


 * Well, Gordon was in stasis of some sort or other during the last ten years. So he missed out on the whole occupation thing. The Combine didn't know he was still alive until he was accidentily teleported into Dr. Breen's office. So they couldn't have taken his suit. Still, I think the fact that he was held in stasis for ten years and transported across dimensional barriers makes a simple HEV suit unimportant -- in the cosmic sense.Atinoda 06:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Except for Idiot Valve ruining a perfectly good game theory with an idiotic game advertisment because they adopted the popular view. (He was not in stasis... why SHOULD he be? The G-Man can control TIME!) And don't quote breens speech in the prison... how can he know gordans 'condition'? And if it is a question of removing the suit... the G-Man removed his guns... isn't that proof enough?131.247.240.244 00:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Why isn't the radio mentioned. He WAS able to intercept HECU comms. As well Mil Comms are usually encrypted. I propose that the G-Man gave the key. Veritas Panther 06:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Lamba
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 * The symbol on Gordon's HEV suit is the lower case Greek letter Lambda (λ). Interestingly, Lambda was the letter that adorned the shield of Spartan Hoplites (foot soldiers) in ancient Greece. It is unknown if this was an intentional Easter egg on the part of the developers at Valve Software, or merely a coincidence.

Shouldn't it be mentioned that lowercase lambda is also used as the symbol for the radioactive decay constant? After all, said constant is used when describing the half-life of a radioactive isotope. --81.236.13.188 17:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It should, since that appears to me to be the most likely source of the symbol. The Spartan connection is a far stretch imho. -- Jordi· ✆ 09:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I've tried to sort the text out re: the above. I've removed the odd speculative bit about Hoplites.  Given the scientific use of lambda, I think it's pretty clear that Valve don't mean this.  --Plumbago 17:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Lambda is used for Half-life. And guess what, its radioactive stuff. There might be some radioactive in hl1, right :D? Cybesystem 22:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

HEV Suit
I think it could be a good idea to create a sepearate article for the HEV suit, this site is about Gordon Freeman, whereas the suit in the game isn't directly related to him, as in the first game other scientists use them too. Also when new games come out (Aftermath, HL3) there will probably be a lot more information to add, and a sepearate page would be required. What do you think?


 * Not at this point. There really isn't that much information available. And anyway, I think it's part of Gordon's character. I haven't seen a single piece of concept art where he wasn't wearing it.

Stained Glass
I'd like to inquire about the source of this "stained glass image of Gordon Freeman." Does it appear in-game or was it confined to demo-art? --AWF


 * Ah - that's my edit. I should explain.  It appeared in a demo movie released by Valve about a year before HL2 was released.  It was one of a series of demonstrations of the Source engine's graphical power.  If I can track down a link to the movie (it's out there on the web), I'll add it to the caption.  Thanks for pointing this deficiency out.  --Plumbago 08:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I've added a link to where one can download the movie - see the image's page. Cheers, --Plumbago 15:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * You can see in the test demo included in Counter Strike: Source, and you can also get it using Garry's Mod with the mod garry's mod plus.

Should add infobox?
Penis size? How is that even relevant to character and who cares? I don't think that something like this encompasses encyclopedic knowledge and is offensive, IMHO. Vgamer101 04:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * For the record, the "measurements" field could easily be blanked or removed to prevent this detail from being displayed (as demonstrated here). Most infoboxes support this feature. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶  15:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC) ╫


 * I would have edited it out myself, but since I'm a relatively new Wikipedian I didn't know if I would screw anything up by erasing it. I'm still learning how to use different commands and never edited an infobox before so I wouldn't know.  Even if I did know how, I would've still been a little hesitant to remove it for fear of an arguement over the removal of it and whether or not it was the right move on my part.  You never know.  But thanks for the remove. I just don't always read the instructions.  My fault.  Won't happen again.  Vgamer101 01:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. :) ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶  14:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC) ╫

Gordon Frohman?
Can he be seen as a soltuion to a lot of the questions brought up in half life 2, eg the huge amoumt of explosive barrels. he should have some sort of character page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slayerx675 (talk • contribs)


 * Not advisable. Frohman is a fan-made character and thus isn't connected to Valve's Half-Life 2 canon. Such information should stick to Concerned and Concerned only. Besides, this page is only designated for information about Gordon Freeman. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶  14:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC) ╫

The character of Gordon Frohman was never meant to be taken seriously, and should not be, either. --Name Theft Victim 21:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Previous designs
I think in hl1, the gordon model has no glasses, and during the works, a fat guy in green armour. Those who had raising the bar can confirm this, i think. Jackpot Den 22:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * See this ; taken from . That is an awful lot of other pre-release info worth reading as well. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶  10:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC) ╫

I guess the question now is that should that stuff be included?

EDIT : here's one with no glasses, and red suit http://nostalgia.planethalflife.gamespy.com/halflife/screens/gordon_model.jpg Jackpot Den 22:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

In Blue Shift,you can see that Freeman hasn't got glasses,and he seems to be redheaded.(Vlady24april 13:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC))

The date of experiment in Black Mesa
The article states that the day is May 5, 200-, but in the Half-Life manual this day is only mentioned as the day when the Black Mesa Administrator wrote the letter to Gordon Freeman, when Freeman still was in Austria. This letter stated that Gordon Freeman should begin his work at Black Mesa no later than May 15. And if you take into account the fact that Gordon is well-known by facility staff at the time of the experiment, this experiment could some time before, exactly at, or even some time after May 15. --Diz 16:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. I just checked the Blue Shift manual and it says that Barney's arrival at Sector C is on May 15, and is on the same day as the Incident. I'll change it. Nufy8 23:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Gordon Freeman: A stereotype or hero for so-called "geeks"?
The Half-Life games were innovative in one regard that the main character had plenty of brains AND brawn. Gordon Freeman is a fictional character that didn't lack either. He's a theoretical physicist from MIT but doesn't lack physical fitness at the same time. A lot of "geeky" characters in a good share of movies, television, and games depict them as being somewhat socially withdrawn with a constant obsession over science-fiction and/or computers who have thick black-rimmed glasses held together by duct-tape, have buck teeth, lots of allergies, have no friends, have no girl-friend, bad acne, are physically weak or out-of-shape and sometimes that they're overweight. The "geeky" or "nerdy" characters are usually put in the role of a computer hacker and/or an anti-social loner. If you ask me the character Gordon Freeman broke that mold many times over because he had a lot of intellect but at the same time wouldn't let some tough overly-muscular jock-like hero do the fighting for him. He does his own dirty work. In the first game, he wasn't highly respected at first by his peers, as a lot of "geeks" or "nerds" can relate to in some way, as he was just a low-level worker but as the storyline progressed onwards and into the second game he becomes more highly respected, all the while nobody in the game makes any discriminatory anti-geek references against him even at the beginning of HL1. The other characters don't seem to notice too much throughout the series. It's hard to look up to a character that follows a steretypical vision of what a "geek" or "nerd" is, this a character that was the result of trying something different for a change, a good role model, that "geeks" could look up to as well as the games he's in depict characters that eventual accept Gordon for who he is, which is a good attitude to promote to those who unfortunately judge "geeks" poorly. You know, switching their attitudes around just a little. Also, look at Half-Life 2. The "geek" starts to get the hot chick without having to go through some complete makeover to compromise who he is or how he looks. Now how many times has the TV or movie industry tried this. How do any of you feel about this? If any of my references are wrong against non-gaming entertainment, then feel free to correct me. Also if this topic does not fit into the discussion section here because it's considered somewhat opinion-based, you can take it off. I just wanted to see what others thought of this because it is definitely something that sets the HL series above other games as well TV and movies. You don't see this kind of innovation much. Vgamer101 05:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The G-Man's Evaluation
Under the Half-Life 1 section, the article says "Players are left to assume that the G-Man arranged for the whole incident, as he can be seen talking with some scientists before the experiment, and since the sample which caused the accident is described as having 'just been delivered that morning.'" However, this is a great and unverified assumption to say that the G-Man was behind the cause of the resonance cascade. A lot of evidence in the game and the subsequent expansion packs even point to the Administrator as being the one who caused (Intentionally or not is unknown) the resonance cascade. Although it was thought for a time that the G-Man was really the administrator, we know now that this is not true. If anything, the G-Man's actions in Half-Life show that he was actually attempting to prevent the disaster from occurring. Although the use of the word "evaluation" can be taken as rather odd, it could simply mean nothing more than the fact that the he was monitoring Gordon's actions after the incident, much like he did with Adrian, Barney, and Gina and Colette.

Anyway, my point is that I would like to remove this sentence, but I believe that if I did, the rest of the paragraph would have to be removed too since the rest of it wouldn't have any meaning. Any ideas, anyone? MarphyBlack 22:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think that paragraph is all that useful, and like you said, is highly speculative and is probably a false assumption. It should just be removed entirely, I think. Nufy8 22:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Misinformative Link?
I think the link Half-Life Saga Story Guide is very inaccurate and sometimes contains false information about the Half-Life universe in comparison to the official books and Valve employee interviews.

Can someone confirm this so we can procceed in removing the link? 155.207.209.119 10:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed, much of the information in that story guide is incorrect, although it tends to be a popular, or at least well-known, resource in some places in the HL community. Regardless, I would be in favor or removing this link since it doesn't do any good to be spreading blatantly wrong information about HL's story. If necessary I could point out specific examples where the site is incorrect, but I think it's obvious from reading the page that a good deal of it is made up of very wild conjecture. MarphyBlack 11:04, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Nufy8 18:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The Arrival as Inspiration
It should probably be noted that this movie may have inspired Valve when creating GF. Charlie Sheen looks very much like the GF we know today in that film, goatee and all. Plus, he's an eccentric scientist becoming unwillingly involved in combating an alien invasion. What do other people think?
 * While Sheen's character in the film does bear a freakish resemblance to Gordon (Something that's brought up quite often around HL communities), I don't think it could really be said that his appearance was the inspiration for Gordon. We know from early screenshots that Gordon originally had a very much different model, dubbed Ivan the Space Biker. From concept art seen in Raising the Bar, we also know that Gordon's basic design evolved from Ivan. I wouldn't find it likely that Valve would redesign Gordon's look to match a character from a movie that barely came out a year and a half before the game was finally released. MarphyBlack 07:46, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and for shedding more light on the issue. Sure am relieved they decided not to go with that Ivan look! However, the similarities between Sheen and Freeman do not end with appearance, they also pertain to occupation and conflict with alien lifeforms, the way I see it.

Doctor Freeman's namesake
Gordon J. Freeman: not a theoretical physicist...
 * Raising the Bar says that Gordon's name is a combination of the names of physicist/philosopher Freeman Dyson and French mathematician Jules Henri Poincare. Apparantly the first suggested name by Marc Laidlaw was Dyson Poincare, at which point Gabe Newell suggested Gordon Freeman, which was quite shockingly kept instead. MarphyBlack 23:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought the name was a reference to a minor character in a different videogame? I'll try to find a source. 155.207.254.51 21:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Category?
Would Mr. Freeman qualify for inclusion in Category:Massachusetts Institute of Technology alumni? Or perhaps Category:Fictional Massachusetts Institute of Technology alumni? --M e rovingian { T C @ } 14:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Iconic Status?
Should there be any mention of Gordon's status as an iconic video-game character? He is known for being the first famous "geek" action hero. I think the fame of his crowbar should also be noted. Making Freeman a silent protagonist and a civilian helped players connect with him more. I think mention should be made of this.--Name Theft Victim 21:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * See my topic of discussion a little bit above this. I feel the same way, I think Gordon Freeman being an iconic "geek" action hero should be noted. Vgamer101 23:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


 * As I argued here, the silent protagonist part is significant, as it lets the player draw their own picture of his character. In your mind he can be polite, rude, dashing, self-deprecating, etc.; you're spared cues that would strongly curtail your imagination, so identification with him is a lot easier (of course, I say this as a scientist, so identification is particularly strong in my case!).


 * Regarding the crowbar, I do agree. With its late, and remarked upon, appearance in HL2:E1, it's confirmed as being emblematic of Freeman.  Making it a central feature of the stained glass image of Freeman further exemplifies this (that it's stained glass draws almost religious parallels).


 * However, it won't be easy to write this up without POV, so watch out. You might want to test text here first rather than incur wrath on the article mainpage.  Cheers, --Plumbago 08:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Appearances and role?
Someone should add information about Freeman's apperances in Opposing Force, Blue-Shift and Decay. In Opposing Force, Sheperd soon found out that a Gordon Freeman was killing most of the millitary force and who became his primarly target until he just wanted to escape Black Mesa alive. Later in the game Sheperd does get an opertunity to get Freeman's back but was to late to get him as be entered Zen. In Blue Shift with Barney Calhoun the security guard, who never actualy fought side to side with Gordon but did witness two soulders drag him away as remembered in Half-Life 1 when you are knocked out. In Half-Life 2 Barney consistantly says in battle "Just like old times hey Gordon!" and yet Barney still ouws Gordon a Beer although when he finaly gets the chance too there may not be much of an earth left after gordon saves the world and defeats the combine. (This has been Conorfus, One of the few Half-Life masters any questions? conorfus@hotmail.com)

Employee of the month
In Opposing Force there is a picture of Gordon Freeman as Employe of the Month, wouldnt it be a good idea to add this to the article? With a screenshot maybe.

Ethnicity
Is Gordon Freeman Jewish?

-"Half Life 2 Gamer"

Not that i've ever heard.Nitre (talk) 10:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

What drove you to make this... Well... Statement/Question? Goldensox (talk) 21:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess it's because two out of his three mentioned idols except for being phycisist were also Jewish. But I think the most important question is "are the headcrabs nazis?"--92.118.191.48 (talk) 04:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, he does look like David Baddiel  Serendi pod ous  01:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Length of Episode 2 Description
The explanation for Episode 2 is far too detailed compared to the descriptions of Half-Life 1 and Half-Life 2. It should be shortened.

-Dr. cr4nk

I've shortened the summary a bit, but i think it still needs some revision. Nitre (talk) 14:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I noticed the length as well. If the plot summary remains and the gameplay summary is removed, it will look like the rest of the sections.--4drammelech (talk) 18:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Marriage and children
In the Freeman's letter of acceptance to Black Mesa picture, it says "Since you are unmarried and without independance." Doesnt Gordon have a a pic of children in his locker at black mesa? Maybe my memory is failing me, but i really think so, or if it was in his office (opposingforce, where you see the "employee of the month".) Please comment. Cybesystem 22:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There's nothing to suggest that the room where you see Gordon's "employee of the month" picture is actually his office. It doesn't have any sort of name listed anywhere near it, or a name placard on any of the desks, plus it would be unlikely that he would work so far away from the anomalous materials lab. There is, however, a picture of two young children in this room located in a file cabinet, but as I said before, the room itself does not appear to belong to Gordon, so the picture of the two children is probably unrelated in any way to him.
 * However, this is a picture of a baby in Gordon's locker. This is mentioned in the article, but the baby picture has never been brought up again in the games after that one appearance. Since we know Gordon is not married and has no children, we can guess that this is just a picture of some other child relative of his, or maybe even a picture of Alyx. MarphyBlack 22:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. But let's think. Ok. The letter is to offer Gordon a job, right? I don't think they put a new guy in the testchamber directly. In HL1, one scientist says: "This is the purest sample yet". This means they've had several samples before. And he says "I think they went through some links to get it...", so it must be kinda hard to get the little yellow stones. This, logically, means that the Lambda team must record everything they can, so they can do some reaserch. Just putting a little expensive yellow thing into a beam and do no futher reaserch is very dumb. Anyway. If they now have had many samples, and made a great amount of reserch of them, plus the time for gordon to get used to his new job, getting his eyes scanned, blood samples etc, will take a lot of time, right? Reserch takes time. So theres still a chance he met a girl, and got a child. But, of corse, noone in hl2 says anything about his kids, therefore you could say this is impossible for Gordon to have a child. But, we canno't say I'm totally wrong. Can we? Cybesystem 01:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Gordon transfers from Austria to Black Mesa on May 5th. We know that the resonance cascade disaster occurred on May 15th. Now, while Gordon may be quite a lady's man, I think it's somewhat unlikely that he found a girl and had a child in 10 days. MarphyBlack 01:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Did it? 15th? Where is that said? But maybe you're right... but why would he have a pic of his best friends (He is his best, or?) girl in his locker? Cybesystem 15:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it's a picture of himself. Or it's like a sample picture that came with the frame and Gordon is just creepy. RebornSentinal
 * Regardless of what it is, its merely speculation. Unless the developers ever make it clear that Gordon does in fact have children/family, we shouldn't be putting it into the article.Artega 23:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Its probably a self-portrait of when he's younger i think...--RobertLeBlais 19:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC) Bold text
 * Self-portrait? Are you saying that he took a picture of himself as an infant? Child prodigy indeed. 206.252.74.48 (talk) 13:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually I think it's a picture of Alyx. I read it somewhere. Can't confirm Something about Barney and Gordon use to climb pipes to get keys and the picture is mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.225.80 (talk) 02:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe it is true that this photo is a picture of Alyx, first Gordon and Dr Vence being good friends, also around HL II, 20 years have passed. It make good sense the picture is alyx. Plus I recall it mentioned somehwere also.Like a baby photo of Eli's baby and it make sense he shows it to his friends.
 * Hsa anyone considered it might be his brother? John?--194.80.204.20 (talk) 13:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I just went back on my Half Life 1, and yes even though the pixels are like legos it is clearly a baby picture of alyx.lizard of doom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.188.49.250 (talk) 05:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Jump-Module (HEV SUIT)
Please note: The jump-module IS NOT built in. Gordon must get the module before he can use the longjump feature (Start a new game, see yourslef). gordon gets it just before he enters Xen. Can some1 please edit? Cybesystem 22:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Where does it say that the jump module is built in? The article specifies it as being "optional". MarphyBlack 22:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, missed that part. But still "optional" can be missunderstood. I don't know what else to say, but ok, nevermind :) . Cybesystem 20:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Gordons tennis ball cannon...
Quote from main page "aside from the butane-powered tennis ball cannon he constructed at age 6".
 * Okay, from where did we know that? I'v never heard of it, and i've played all hl games. But i'v migt have missed it, but please, where was it said? 22:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This is taken from the Half-Life 2: Prima Official Game Guide. MarphyBlack 22:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Then is that truly authentic Half-Life canon? I remember Planet Half-Life made that up.


 * It was apparently appreciated enough by Valve to allow it to be used in the official guide. -- Jordi· ✆ 13:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Gordon's Job
When referencing Gordon's job in the Anomalous Materials Lab, the article makes it sound as if pushing samples into a scanner is the extent of his work there. However, when playing Half-Life, one of the guards says something significant as he unlocks a door for you: "It looks like you're in the Barrel today." That phrasing sounds to me as if all the scientists on the Anomalous Materials team take turns wearing the HEV suit and placing the sample in the scanner, and the day of the Resonance Cascade just happened to be Gordon's turn. Any thoughts?
 * Nice therory. It makes good sense, but I'm not sure it's correct. In HL2 Alyx says that Dr. Mossman always talks about "how it should be her in the testchamber that day". This proves your therory a bit. Dr. Eli Vance says that Gordon was chosen, not Mossman, because he was better in some theroretical area (Don't remember wich one, Dr. Vance says it in the black mesa east chapter i think...). Therefore they do not "take turns wearing the HEV suit". Of corse they might do it, but because of Dr. vance statement that Gordon was chosen instead of Mossman, I don't think they do. They might also "take turns wearing the HEV suit" normally, but because this was the purest sample yet (acording to a scientist in HL1, soon before the cascade), they might have wanted to select their best scientist. Then theres, at least for me, a logical problem. Now, if he was chosen, and knowing about it, why would the guard inform him about it? And if he didn't know about it, how comes Dr. Vance knew about it? Though the guard *could* inform him about his turn wearing the HEV suit, but I don't see why if Gordon already know about it. Maybe we should make a new wiki article with ALL the half-life therories, including those about Gordon, it will be easier that way. I have to say it again, good therory. Cybesystem 19:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, in Xen, I remember there are some dead scientists wearing their HEV suits with helmets. --190.136.100.163 (talk) 02:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

and in blue shift, in a security camera, you see a scientest in a HEV suit pushing the crystal. It was NOT gordon. Different area that the crystal was being pushed at. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.146.9.167 (talk) 15:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Gordon's glasses
This is truly trivial, but does anyone know what type of glasses Gordon wears? Is there a specific type/brand name/make for these glasses? - a bespectacled HL fanboy   --62.1.231.165 21:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * They highly resemble a fairly common kind of National Health Service spectacles. Maybe Freeman is a Brit… -- Jordi· ✆ 07:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Were Freeman a Brit, I'd have expected some snide remark from NPCs about this by now ("what's up with your teeth?", "oooh, I love your accent", etc.). Regarding his glasses, they do bear an alarming resemblance to NHS spectacles (see Jarvis Cocker for a prime example), but I think they're supposed to convey a form of geek chic on Freeman.  --Plumbago 08:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It was intended as a joke. You're right, it's probably geek chic: it's certainly a step up from Ivan the Space Biker… -- Jordi· ✆ 14:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * ... the horror, the horror ... What were the artists at Valve thinking when they came up with that monstrosity?  Anyway, it was kind-of amusing to be reminded of the old "National Healthers" (how much did they suck?).  Cheers, --Plumbago 14:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Wait a minute... No matter what you say about the glasses, Gordon is cool. Cool. Essentially, I would like to visit an optician and get a very similar pair of glasses, without carrying any Gordon-related picture. Do they have a name/type that I could order them by?  -  a bespectacled HL fanboy --62.1.231.165 19:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry dude, I think you're just going to have to check out what's on offer at your local optician, and try to find the best match that way. I'd have thought you could do this online to a degree to avoid that whole embarrassment thing.  Good luck!  --Plumbago 22:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm, maybe Freeman is a brit. Maybe that explains why we never hear him speak; that would give away the accent.


 * I think it's more like it is with Link. Nintendo has specifically stated that Link on the Legend of Zelda series never speaks because he is supposed to be you. By not having Gordon speak, it can feel more immersive. Half Life 2 even hangs a lantern on his not speaking. This helps suspend the disbelief more while also teasing you for being a player and not really able to respond. 24.254.163.150 (talk) 09:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I always thought they were BCGs Urlor (talk) 14:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Austrian?
What language do they speak in Austria? I thought it was German, but only because I didn't think "Austrian" was a language. But whatever it is, I'm thinking that Gordon would be fluent in it, since he lived there for awhile (or did he? Do we know how long he lived there?).--67.172.204.135 20:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Gordon is only described as having visited Innsbruck, so he probably only lived there a few years before returning to the US. As for whether he became fluent with whatever language they speak in Austria, well, I just assume that he commanded people around by looking at them. A good stare from Freeman is enough to make citizens want to rush into certain battle, evidently. MarphyBlack 20:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

If you remember, since Innsbruck happened before Black Mesa, he had not developed this ability yet. The stare was most obviously a gift from the G-Man for accepting employment:D. --67.172.204.135 04:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Christ! Of course we speak german in Austria. But if Gordon would've learned german in Innsbruck (Tyrol) he would have a funny bavarian-like accent. 80.122.82.226 19:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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There are several passages, although referenced in this talk disscussion, that are not referenced within the article. I think it would be simple enough for some one to find these references and cite them in the article. Yes, you list them at the end but you are plagurising infromation withIN the article, any quotes or infromation needs an appropiate citation tag.

I am also gonna recommend a "this article contradicts itself" as it is evident that infromation from the book and all three games may have counterdictary infromation. ex. colour of his hair, wears glasses. And when people reference beta games (or atleast in the talk) you are adding in, yet another, game that is not apart of the Half Life 'real universe'.

Finally, there are 6 sources of infromation. Ads, the three games, the books, the 'theory forums'. In light of this you have 6 views of what occured at x time. Thus the article should be sorted via source, not relivance, because the sources can alter what the theorized events are.

I am still gonna put up the unreferenced tag. Personally, if you want me not to rant about it you should QUOTE the book, not paraphrase it, and cite the quotes. I don't own the book and just by reading this I question the validity of some of the statements. As the book is the only baisis for some of the article it does make better sense to quote it (being an harder to obtain source) so people can sort out the biased writing that occurs from the encycolpedic infromation.

If it turns out that you can't verify the sources I'll recommend a clean-up of the unverified infromation. This infromation should either be separated from this article or have its own subsection which lists the gordan based theorys.


 * Wait, you acknowledge the fact that the sources for this information are clearly cited, yet you add an unreferenced tag anyway? I may remove the tag simply on this basis alone. Reading the article again, the only speculation I see is some stuff about the picture of the baby in Gordon's locker (I'll fix that right now) and some stuff in the HEV section. However, all other information is either directly from the game or straight from the sources cited (the Half-Life instruction manual and Prima game guide for Half-Life 2, mainly). The only quotes in the article, which you say need inline citations, are from the games. I think it would be massive overkill to have to add an inline citation for every one (Especially since they're already placed in sections to their respective game, or it's already stated what game the quote is from). I don't believe "being an harder to obtain source" is justfication to claim that the information here may be biased (in favor of who or what, exactly?) or not valid. There are many people editing this article who do have access to these aforementioned "hard to obtain" sources, me being one of them, so rest assured that nothing massively incorrect is being thrown into the article. I can verify all the information here myself, if you'd like.
 * You say that one possible problem here is the many sources being used may conflict. Well, while that certainly is possible issue, none of the sources in this instance contradict each other. All the games and written material pretty much just present Gordon as some guy in an orange hazard suit who wears glasses and doesn't talk too much. There's not much to contradict here. There are also no mentions of the alpha or beta versions of any of the Half-Life games, so I have absolutely no clue what you're going on about there.
 * Oh, and you spelled "Gordon" wrong. MarphyBlack 02:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Grodaon isn't spelled wrong. And I like the "uncited", quite frankly you are EXPECTED to propperly cite the articles, I admit that you have a foot note saying "yeah, I may or may not have gotten the info from this source" not that it is propperly cited. And i did NOT say only cite the games... I said cite the sources, you cite the passages from the books with direct quotes, not infromation smashed together, and stuff!

Also, sources allways conflict if you don't realize that they are written as fan fiction, I have noticed every time someone writes fan fiction, be it via ads or books, there is allways a conflicting peice of infromation that you can find. In the HL Franchise? I know of two very notable instances, his hair color and who is Barney. At the time of writing this I probally noted more conflictions baised on my knowledge of the franchise, yet I feel that by simply SPECIFICALLY stating the sources the disimilarity between each source can be nullified.


 * Barney's hair color is not a point of contention, nor is it even a notable point of mention (It's certainly not stated in his article, nor would I think that people would even really care). He, the real Barney, is clearly identified in Blue Shift, and there has been absolutely no conflicts with other sources in regards to his identity. However, this is all completely irrelevant since we're not talking about Barney. This article is about Gordon. All sources depict him in the same exact manner. No conflicts or contradictions exist here. Therefore, all official sources are valid (and I'm stating the obvious as they have been all along).
 * I'm not going to remove the tag this time, even though I still believe there's no justifiable reason for it to be here. I'll let others voice their thoughts on this issue. MarphyBlack 01:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Sigh, Did I say barney? I belie ve I said Gordans Hair color, but that is irelivant. Unfortunatly You continue to ignore the pressing issue, the sources aren't set in propperly. You should QUOTE books instead of tranlating them because inevidably all tranlations will have a point of view descrepancy even if you don't see it. And as a character, the situations in HL1 and HL2 change signifigantly, a character is more then his core, but also how the world view him. Because the core qualitys of Gordan Freeman can only be discerned from external shit, view will change. HL2 presents Freeman as an object of religion, he is revered by everyone he meets (and they gladly comit suicide for him). HL1 he was more of a tool, the scientests were quite cowardly and unwilling to risk their lives for the cause. Gordan in the books is depicted as a supergenius, unlike what he is depicted in both HL1 and HL2, in HL1 he is shown as a collegue, but also a lab assistant, the manual puts him at a low grade clearance level. If you really want to pick at gordans 'genius' level take a look at the number of times people EXPLAIN what to do to gordan. His "Disaster Response Level" (i think) was Discresionary, not Superior. You continue to view gordan linerarly, think only of what is immediatly implied or shown, view him laterally, see what others think of him and understand that the infromation they provide to you is skewed by their affection.

Dumbed Up, Gordan in HL1 is a Scientist, Gordan in HL2 is a Terrorist (Revolutionist), Gordan in the Books is a Super Genius which does not compliment what was conveyed by both games.

Sources Should be directly Quoted if they are not free to remove any emergent POV (AND POV WILL EMERGE) so that Others can make their on asertations about the material.


 * Your interpretations of Gordon (Which you have yet to spell correctly) are nothing more than original research and totally unverifiable opinions. However, everything presented in this article is, in fact, verifiable as it is properly referenced and cited. You're asking for entire passages to be copied from the specific sources, which would be copyright violation. Anyway, it's quite clear at this point that you're speaking total nonsense and are only intentionally antagonizing this article. Removing the reference tag since it has no basis and you never provided any sufficient reason for its addition to begin with. MarphyBlack 06:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I'm not the person you're discussing this with, but if I could add in regards to mispelling, someone seems to have posted irrelevant information: "His fame is overshadowed however as he is the murderer of approx. 15,680 Black Mesa personnel, must with his crowbar, others gathered in wide open spaces for no apparent reason, awaiting them doom from one of Mr. Freeman's grenades." It's uninteligable and I believe they spell his name Gorden. Anonymous.

broken link
The external link for planethalflife's write-up of plot doesn't work. it's not immediately obvious what the correct new link is. 65.244.78.22 22:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I believe I found the equivalent 'Story overview' page that's being used on the new PHL layout. Thanks for pointing this out. MarphyBlack 22:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be called "Dr Gorden Freeman
I was wondering if anyone agree that the articles title should be altered to "Dr Gordon Freeman" as opposed to just "Gordon Freeman"?Bisected8 13:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Gordon's name is accompanied by "Ph.D.," which is short for "Doctor of Philosophy." It would be redundant to mention "Doctor" again, especially to those who know what "Ph.D." means. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 13:02, 7 October 2006 (UTC) ╫
 * Oh, wait, my mistake. I though the question was referring to the intro of the article.


 * As far as articles on actual scientists are concern, you are invited to see Naming conventions (people). "Doctor" is not recommended to be used as the first word for article articles names of people. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 17:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC) ╫

Gordon's face
The article says:


 * Gordon's face is a composite of four Valve employees: David Speyrer, Eric Kirchmer, Greg Coomer and Kelly Bailey.

But I read somewhere (can't recall where) that he looks like the game's writer, Marc Laidlaw (see photo here). - Stormwatch 18:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It was in the Raising the Bar book. They had a page on how they made Gordon Freeman's face. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer007 (talk • contribs) 06:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

What's weird is, and I've never even played Half-Life, is that he looks like me. Just add a moustache and goatee on me, and I'd look like him, but at 25. No. Lie. --LuvLuv G2000 08:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC) .

In Case Somebody in Science Likes Half-Life . ..
Most of the people reading this page are probably familiar with the italicized thing at the top of some pages informing the reader that there is another article that has a similar name. What I am requesting is a variant of that. I don't think there's a template for it (and it might be against some obscure Wikipedia policy I haven't discovered), but maybe somebody should put a little note at the top of the page saying this Gordon Freeman is a separate person from the real-life scientist Gordon Freeman. (And yes, there really is a real Gordon Freeman. On page 32 of the March 2007 issue of Scientific American, which I just read due to extreme boredom, he is mocked quite nastily for saying in 1990 that the children of working mothers are more likely to use drugs.)
 * Is the scientist notable? If he's so obscure that he would not merit an article in Wikipedia, then I don't think there's a disambiguation issue. Croctotheface 01:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Half Life references in Fiction
Some amusing excerpts from Christopher Brookmyre's novel A Big Boy Did It and Ran Away which reference Half Life, to back up my mentioning them in the article proper.

Dubh Ardrain. Gaelic for Black Ridge, Black Promontory, Black Mesa, something like that anyway.

'In a nation such as Sonzola, however, the only certain destiny is that sooner or later someone will stab you in the back. Yesterday morning, at zero-fifteen hours, Captain Adrian Shephard of Her Majesty's Special Air Service led an operation to evacuate General Philip Thaba, a member of Mopoza's inner circle who had communicated his wish to defect. Captain Shephard will take over the briefing from here.'

SAS. Of course.

He looked at the name addressing him on the screen, different almost every time he checked in somewhere. This trip, he was Gordon Freeman. He'd chosen the Christian name to sound inconspicuously Scottish; while the surname was an indulgence, a celebration even.

He looked down, his view slightly refracted through the glass of a mask. On his chest he had undamaged armour. On his skin he had an environment suit supplemented by a full tank of O2. And he already had two weapons in his inventory: a speargun and a crowbar.

Game on.

wow... i thought I was a big fan. interesting finds.


 * What the heck? Is that a real book? All that sounds like.... made up stuff. Cloudy fox 001 (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Should we add this to article?
The following text is from eXponential Half-Life fan site (1997 or 1998).

Gabe on IRC - 8:51.am.est - Phantom

- Just copied this from eXponential Half-Life...Gabe Newell dropped into #half-life on Undernet and mentioned a few things.

 We were interviewed by Electric Playground for a TV show they are doing.  Gordon is actually Chuck Jones, in spite of his resemblance to Marc and Blues.

In short, original Gordon Freeman model we see in Half-Life (for Half-Life 2 design, see above) is based on Chuck Jones. --Barnz 15:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Not really a reference
In the references to Gordon section, it says something about how in Bioshock, Atlas tells the player to "grab a crowbar or someting." I dont think this is really a reference, just a coincidence, I mean it's just a crowbar. So yeah, keep it or take it out.


 * Well, not too many games have you using a crowbar, and it is sort of Gordon's trademark... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.135.16 (talk) 06:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * ...But in general, crowbars are accepted as common makeshift weapons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.190.240 (talk) 07:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

If somebody mentions a crowbar in a video game you're pretty much guaranteed that it's an HL reference. In fact, I would say that paying homage to Half-Life is an important part of the modern sci-fi shooter. Playwrite (talk) 16:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Can we get a list of games that have characters with glasses or maybe a beard too? Didn't Quake/doom have a crowbar in it?  That is cool how they referenced a game that wouldn't even be out for ten years.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.64.16.58 (talk) 16:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Doom and Quake have never had a crowbar. Doom has offered fists, a chainsaw, and a flashlight for melee. Quake has had a hatchet and a circular saw (some had no melee weapon at all). However, I do believe it silly to call any videogame reference to a crowbar a HL2 reference. Urlor (talk) 14:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Half-Life 2: ' Episode Two '
Gordon Freeman starts in a wrecked train and from there get outs by Alyx firing the Gravity Gun to open the door. From there, they travel to a old train station and this iswhere Alyx is injured by a hunter.

Alex vance is rescued by a Vortiguant and is taken underground where the Vortiguants try to heal her. Goredon is then told to collect some Ant Lion eggs by going down into the centre of the Ant Lion's nest. After acheving that goal, he is then told to meditate with the vortigunat so that they can use his lfe force to heal Alyx. While this happens, the G-Man freezes time and talks to Gordon and explians to him what objectives he wants him to acheive. Time unfreezes and Alyx is healed.

Later on Alyx and Gordon go towards the bridge where they find the car but the bridge is damaged so Gordon has to get there and get the car onto the other side. Alyx use the sniper mod, like in Espoide 1 to cover Gordon Freeman.

Once this is done, they travel onwards towards White Forest. They meet up with an Advisor but it runs away. Then they have to face a helicopter and Gordon destroys it by firing it's bombs back at it using the Gravity gun. Then Gordon has to take out a automated sniper and move through cars and bulidings to destroy it. (reminensecnt of Call of Duty

Then they go onwards through the Forest to reach the Missle Silo.

(Look I have to tell you that I am treying to fox this up but if someone can help me edit this once they have completed the game. I t would be gracious of them.Hypern 10:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC) Hypern

Quick note about loosing dark energy
When the core was secured freemen experianced an EMP blast from the core which cause his suit to fade. It's unlinkely the effects were considered to be temporary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.168.10 (talk) 19:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Episode II
That section seems too long. Seems to suffer from recentism - can somebody cut it down (I'm not doing it, as I haven't played it yet). Ingolfson 21:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

May 16, 200- ?
So, it seems that Gordon started at Black Mesa on May 15, 200-, but how do we know the Black Mesa incident was on May 16, 200- ?

It would mean that it happened on his second day in the facility, while he seems to be quite known by the other scientists, and according to Alyx, him and Barney used the crawl through air vents, racing to be the first to unlock Dr. Kleiner's office. So how could they have had to get acquainted and be friends?... I think it's a mistake. Give me a real source! Klow (talk) 16:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah exactly, how was he employee of the month if his starting date and the incident were a day apart? --74.135.59.209 (talk) 22:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * He's just that awesome? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.164.49 (talk) 19:34, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Original Research?
In the Character section there is an original research tag. However, the majority of the section appears to be copied directly from Gordon's biography in the Half Life 2:Prima Official Game Guide. Any help?Lord Of Demise (talk) 15:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If it's copyrighted text remove it with extreme prejudice. If it's based on the source, rm the "OR" tag and add the gameguide as a reference. &lt;eleland/talkedits&gt; 15:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I checked, and it's only based on the Prima bio. I'm going to add the reference now.Lord Of Demise (talk) 19:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Gordan Freeman
He's referred to as Gordan Freeman in HL1.--24.109.218.172 (talk) 19:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Look here. It's spelled Gordon. Lord Of Demise (talk) 23:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Black Mesa Staff
In the image showing a photography of a small part of The Black Mesa Research Facility Staff, including Doctor Freeman, found in Half-Life 2, it states that the crossed out scientist is most likely the G-Man. But in this article about The Black Mesa Research Facility, it states that the scientist is Dr.Breen. If you've ever played even one of the Half-Life games, you'd know that it makes no sense that the G-Man would be in the photography. No matter how mysterious he is capable of being. 83.243.191.14 (talk) 20:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Relationship with Alyx Vance
I'm not going to make this change because I'm not too knowledgable about the series. Instead, this is just a possible suggestion for those who do know. I do seem to recall someone remaking that Freeman hadn't aged since the Reasonance Cascade incident. Infact, GMan's words in the beginning of Half Life 2 about "sleeping" seem to imply that Freeman was held in a state of suspended animation. As a result, could the age gap not be about as valid as any other "time travel into the future"? Should someone who is 11 years of age traveling 10 years into the future be allowed to drink? Or should they still be considered underage? If a toddler travels ahead 20 years, are they suddenly developmentally retarded?

My point is this, if Freeman did infact effectively travel into the future by way of GMan, then would the age gap not be much smaller than the birth dates would show? 24.254.163.150 (talk) 09:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I want to ask if Gordon Freeman wears a Helmet ?
From what I can understand Goron Freeman seems to bale to take bullets to the head a survive a direct hits. So let me ask you this, if somehow he can survive a bullet shot to the head. Why does he not die ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hypern (talk • contribs) 13:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he does wear a helmet. All the corpses in HL1 that have HEV suits on have helmets. Lord Of Demise (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * He would be quite inefficient at avoiding radiation and toxins if he wa smissing it, I think he has a helmet for in-game purposes, but not for "photographic" (cover) purposes--Techercizer (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I can say that the most acceptable aswer to that is that the helmet is somewhat retractable, so he puts it when going to the fight and take it off to people to know him, yet, the animation is not shown.

Other says that the glasses he wears are connecter to the HEV Suit somehow, that why he can zoon and watch the ammunition. Goldensox (talk) 21:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

He actually forgot the Helmet
Gordon Freeman was late to do his little routine work and grabbed his suit. But somehow the helm was missing (Dunno how) So Gordon's suit isnt complete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.233.247.10 (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Cite or remove.--4drammelech (talk) 18:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Codename: Gordon
Shouldn't it be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.109.48.23 (talk) 15:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of pop culture references section?
I would opt for that. The section seems to me to be too long, poorly written (The text assumes that the reader already knows enough about Half Life to get the references. I've never played the game and many of the references listed are therefore beyond my comprehension) and there seem to be a number of entries that exist for no reason other than both games containing crowbars. It should either be rewritten and shortened or deleted.--Dark Green (talk) 15:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Some of the crowbar trivia should be removed. Most of them make it should like the crowbar was an item that was created in the Half-life universe, like the Halo 3 and BioShock ones. --DoubleDee0614 (talk) 09:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the crowbar was the defining weapon of the original Half-Life. If you google it, you will find that the first Half-Life 2 advertisement consisted just of a picture of the crowbar and the tagline "Next month". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.129.175.199 (talk) 12:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, almost all of that section sounds like original research, even though there is a couple of references. Cloudy fox 001 (talk) 23:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

An interesting picture...
A friend showed me this picture removed while archiving/bshit/1220360595652.jpg. I think it might be interesting to put it under pop culture reference section. bruno (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's the corresponding link from digg.com:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Gordon_Freeman_Spotted_in_CERN_Test_Chamber (129.132.248.82 (talk) 09:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC))
 * I don't think so. That's not popular culture really.  Next up, we post all Lolcats ever made under the cat article... Mezigue (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * lolz! Goddamnit! Wikipedia must really have a humor forums section to talk about this things (comment not irrelevant, haz 2 do with improving wikiz)--92.118.191.48 (talk) 04:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

It should be referenced IMO - in a "in popular culture section". Everyone seems to tag them that they are "discouraged", yet usually such sections have many interesting facts 89.77.118.185 (talk) 02:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman involvment?
Is Gordon's name at all taken from Morgan Freeman's name?76.66.185.81 (talk) 06:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Gordon Freeman may be based on The Chemist - Gordon Freeman. See http://www.ualberta.ca/~gfreeman/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.62.217.156 (talk) 14:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Age?
Should it be mentioned that during Half Life 1 he is 27, it says so in the game near the very beginning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.110.20 (talk) 21:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Popular Culture
Anyone who play Penumbra should remember a thin ice theme where you have to saw off a hand on ice grabbing a crowbar, and the guy's name is Dr.Freeman I believe. I think that should be add in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EnderXenocide (talk • contribs) 02:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Gearboxe's "Makeover"
'''However, using the "noclip" command in the developer console allows the player to see Gordon face to face, revealing a "makeover" of Gearbox's very own. Namely, a small ponytail and a pair of rectangular sunglasses.''' Uh, look at the low-definition player.mdl model from HL1, the ponytail was always there, Gearbox did not add that part. I'll edit the page to fix this error, but leave this here to justify my edit. --165.154.24.163 (talk) 23:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Scribblenauts Reference
There's a clear reference around the 30 seconds mark in this video Mista koo (talk) 21:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Concept art image
I added a concept art drawing, since it was an early concept and was drawn before the model was even made, with a helmet and such. However, I also considered adding "Ivan the Space Biker" instead, since it's arguably more iconic and was used in early publicity for the game, as well as made into a model. Any thoughts on which one would be more useful for the article?--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:06, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

GameSpot's award
You may want to mention that the only reason he won is because some guy spammed the link to directly vote for him on several online forums, and that no-one else even cared about the "contest". You didn't see Mario fans organizing votes or anything.--ILoveSky (T | C) 17:01, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote stacking or no, the fact that it led to a price cut makes it somewhat notable.--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:26, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

"Relationship" section
While it's pretty clear that Gordon has some kind of relationship with Alyx (despite being mute), the section is basically original research and should be merged into the characteristics section.--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Cold War
He looks alot like Matthew Carter from the game cold war. Do you think there's any conections between the two? 142.169.126.86 (talk) 20:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

OFF
I think Ryan Reynolds could protray Gordon in a movie lol. At least in Blad Trinity helooks very like Gordon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.100.205.34 (talk) 20:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

P.h.D in asskicking/badassery
It should be noted that comically Freeman got his phd in Asskicking or Badassery( being a badass) and he is the only person to ever recive this honor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.145.66 (talk) 02:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Dyson Image
Why would an editor remove the image of Dyson. he claims Dyson doesn't look like Gordan Freeman but then wants to deny our readers reaching the same conclusion. What have you got against illustrating articles? ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 13:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The character is named after Dyson as an homage. There is no sourcing that his appearance is based on Dyson, and we make no claims that he does or doesn't. It's a large unnecessary image that doesn't directly pertain to the topic. Why not a photo of Gabe Newell and Marc Laidlaw as well? How about on every article they are mentioned? It's not necessary to illustrate the topic or provide any new information to the reader. The topic is not about Dyson. -- ferret (talk) 13:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * No source means no inclusion, right? I have removed the mention from here and from Freeman Dyson. If you find a reliable source we can restore both the mention and the image. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 13:32, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Uh, page 30 of Half-Life 2 Raising the Bar, which is already the source for this paragraph. -- ferret (talk) 13:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

HL: Alyx
"The G-Man can in fact be seen watching events from a balcony at the side of the room, unbeknownst to Eli"

Whoever wrote that should probably go back and replay the ending. Kylesenior (talk) 10:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2021
In section HALF LIFE: ALYX, in the first paragraph, there is a typo where 'stasis' is spelt 'statis':

"The game takes place five years before Half-Life 2, and Gordon is still being held in statis by the G-Man." 46.208.127.119 (talk) 10:58, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Eevee01(<b style="color:#40E0D0; font-style: italic">talk</b>) 12:27, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2022
Remove an image of Gordon's statue from the lead because it's not needed, no context, and not part of any commentary. 182.1.101.41 (talk) 02:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Seriously not every edit need a consensus, unless there is a serious reason to the contrary. 182.1.89.55 (talk) 09:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Images in infoboxes are common practice and therefore consensus is best for a change like this. Terasail [✉️] 10:02, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2022
Remove the picture of statue. That doesn't add anything to the article. 182.1.89.55 (talk) 09:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 09:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Add acots
Now that Johnathan Roumie has a Wikipedia page, he needs to be linked here as the actor portraying this character in the 2013 Half Life short film. 2001:5B0:270C:AC48:F4FD:8FAC:25AA:11D3 (talk) 13:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)