Talk:Government of the classical Ottoman Empire

No sense of historical change
This article presents the Ottoman state organization as almost totally static, without mention of the many developments and transformations it experienced over the centuries. It hardly distinguishes between how the Ottoman Empire was organized in 1450, 1600, 1700, 1800, and so on, mixing eras together at will. It provides an unrealistic and ahistorical depiction of the Ottoman Empire as a static state which did not change over time. There was no single "State Organization of the Ottoman Empire" just as there was no single "State Organization of France" that one can speak of spanning multiple centuries. This article is thus extremely problematic. It needs to be updated to reflect the changes the empire experienced over the centuries, with these changes placed into their proper historical context. Chamboz (talk) 16:34, 14 September 2016 (UTC)


 * (186.188.238.66 (talk) 06:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)) Hey Chamboz, you're right. However, very few people appear to be interested in updating this article... You should find friend or wise people to update this article.

Director of posts and telegraphs
The Servet i Funun here https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129259/100/PFSIF9190925A340.jpg stated that Retik Halid Bey was the director of posts and telegraphs. https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129259/97/PFSIF9190925A337%20%281919-09-25%29.jpg identifies it as Issue #1428 WhisperToMe (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Also found info on the new cabinet https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129259/121/PFSIF9191009A361%20(1919-10-09).jpg introduced here https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129259/124/PFSIF9191009A364.jpg, and more figures at https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129259/125/PFSIF9191009A365.jpg WhisperToMe (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129156/63/PFSIF9170208124.jpg Minister of public works WhisperToMe (talk) 15:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129156/97/PFSIF9170301159.jpg Telegraph minister WhisperToMe (talk) 16:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Servet-i-Funun #1385 describes a new Ministry of the economy https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129372/229/PFSIF9180321B002.jpg WhisperToMe (talk) 20:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129372/844/PFSIF9181128A228.jpg Minister of Finances Abdul-Rahman Effendi, Abdullah Pasha Minister of War, Djemil Pasha prefect, Riza Tewfik Bey Minister of Public Instruction WhisperToMe (talk) 07:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)