Talk:Grunge speak

The following terms are legitimate:

--Lukobe 05:53, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * dish - desirable guy
 * score - great


 * But were they legit then? And were they spoken in the Seattle grunge scene? You would have to prove both to argue that they weren't at least fake then. Even then, they were still mentioned in the interview, so they still belong there. -- LGagnon 23:57, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Origin of the glossary
This site claims the NY Times reprinted the glossary from a British magazine. Can this be verified? -- Paul Richter 09:54, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * That is, I believe, what the Baffler said. It was a British' magazine that called Sub Pop looking for the slang, then printed it. Soundgarden was in Britain at the time, saw it, realized it was a joke but played along by using it in interviews. So then the Times picked it up. Daniel Case 17:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

You mean I've been swinging on the flippety flop for years, in the wrong (linguistic) place? --Christofurio 21:00, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

You'll occasionally hear a 'rock on' from people. And 'score' is actually used pretty frequently. I've been known to say it quite a bit.

I heard "rock on" used in the early to mid 80s, to mean something akin to "right on" or "that's great".
 * I've certainly heard "rock on" and "score", but they're certainly not grunge-specific. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ben Morris (talk • contribs) 21:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

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Due to the many AfDs which are initiated to enforce this policy and due to the resistance to such deletion by defenders of the glossaries, I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not to rewrite the policy in order to solve this problem and to readdress this question: should slang glossaries by allowed on Wikipedia? --List Expert 23:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * But this is not a slang list. This is about a hoax which was about slang. You've completely missed the point of this article, and did not invalidate it under any of the terms you mentioned. -- LGagnon 01:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, people get so hung up on the letter of the law that they miss the reason for the rules existing -- which, in the case of the slang guidelines, is to prevent people from creating articles for slang terms they made up with their friends. This is a perfectly legitimate article about a notable (if minor) pop culture-related hoax. MrBook (talk) 13:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

here's the original NYT article. I don't know how to include it in this entry http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CEED7173BF936A25752C1A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.161.245 (talk) 04:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Notability
See Talk:Grunge/Archive 4: This article is solely reliant on primary sources (the NYT piece that is the subject of the topic, The Baffler piece that responded to it, leaving only the Observer piece about the hoax itself, and a mention in the documentary). In all, it's more a part of grunge's history than an independently notable topic. czar 11:01, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I just heard about it on WNYC Studio 360 show - so now it's more notable. 74.88.72.39 (talk) 15:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I added a "Legacy" section because one of the terms spawned a comic book, and then a television series. There's clearly enough notability here to justify an article. Trumpetrep (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2020 (UTC)