Talk:Guarneri

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On this page, it states that Andrea Guarneri left the Amati workshop between 1646 and 1650. I am currently building an Andrea Guarneri page, and not mentioned this, simply saying that he started his apprenticeship in 1646 and left definitively in 1655. Although this page has no reference attached to these dates, I presume the information has been gotten from the Hill book The Violin Makers of the Guarneri Family, as I did mine. The Hills found only that Andrea Guarneri's name was listed in the Amati house up to 1646 and mentioned again in 1650. Given the inconsistencies of the census at that time, and that he did not show up in any other census in any other house, combined with Hill's statement that his work continued to be present in Amati violins throughout the 40's and 50's, I do not feel convinced that he ever left the Amati household, or at least the workshop. Perhaps he took lodging somewhere else, but what is important is his presence in the workshop and continued tutelage by Nicolo Amati. Because the evidence is inconclusive, I have not changed what has been written on this page, however I did want to account for the inconsistency. Chickpeana (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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Z for mangled.
It is notable that the brand was used in a mangled form of "Pater Zurneri" especially in Vienna. They didn't just get the family name wrong, but also falsely assumed the lutheist was an ecclesiastic person. Ludwig van Beethoven owned four Guarneris, into which he carved his initials on the outside, thereby destroying their market value (according to contemporary view). Those instruments were listed as Zurneris in his will / estate list. 78.131.76.144 (talk) 00:13, 26 December 2022 (UTC)