Talk:HL-20 Personnel Launch System

Copyright violation
Large portions of this article is copied straight from: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hl20.htm I fair-use a single sentence from a press release and have some retarded editor yelling on my talk page within in hours. This article, illegally, has been in massive violation for months and no one has even noticed it. That's Wikipedia right there for ya. --85.82.179.226 (talk) 08:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

The lifting body story didnt stop there, HL-42 was studied after that .. Savuporo (talk) 13:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Please note that the large portions of text copied in this article come from NASA, and therefore are not subject to copyright, so the claim that there is a copyvio here is just wrong. That being said, we're better then this, so I'm standing with the IP user who has recently removed it. Yes, the NASA content is free to use, but that doesn't mean that we need to simply copy it. Read it, summarize, and re-add the content to the article. I may get around to doing this myself eventually, but this article is not exactly on the top of my personal to do list, so to speak. — V = I * R (Talk&thinsp;&bull;&thinsp;Contribs) 00:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Your proposal to rewrite the text is sound. However, until someone gets around to it, it is better to have the NASA text than nothing. -Arb. (talk) 10:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I can live with that, and the article already includes a couple of tags. I probably won't get back here for 6 months or so however, so if anyone feels up to it then please just start editing. Just take a couple of paragraphs at a time and summarize/paraphrase them. — V = I * R (Talk&thinsp;&bull;&thinsp;Contribs) 17:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Need to add info about the design being taken from the Bor-4
I believe it is very important to the article.--Craigboy (talk) 01:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/science/space/01private.html?pagewanted=2&_r=3&ref=science

Repeating Information
Need to remove some of the current redundantness of the article.--Craigboy (talk) 01:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

More concept art
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=165

http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=137 --Craigboy (talk) 04:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Mig-105
The story of capturing the BOR-4 shape is known, but is there any reference of direct influence of (earlier) Mig-105 design? Aarrcchhiimmeeddeess (talk) 14:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

The "HL" designation stands for horizontal lander (??)
I had read elsewhere that it stood for Heavy Lift, to contrast with the MnFn series, which were very small. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:E414:3A01:38EF:CEFA:F7EB:A5E (talk) 06:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)