Talk:Hafız Mehmet

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for what prove you say this happened like this?? You noted the number 1 citation but who says the book tells true? Its full of lie and you wrote your lie just as writing here, vice versa .. People know you and your lies .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.99.152 (talk) 08:02, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, don't look at the book. How bout the official archives of the Turkish Parliament (Türkiye Büyük Millet Meclisi): "Ordu kazasında bir kaymakam vardı. Ermenileri kayığa doldurarak Samsun’a göndermek bahanesi ile denize döktürdü. Vali Cemal Azmi’nin de aynı muameleyi yaptığını işittim. Oraya kadar gidemedim. Ordu kazasından dönmeye mecbur oldum. Buraya gelir gelmez meşhudatımı Dâhiliye Nazırına söyledim. O vakit müfettiş gönderdiler ve kaymakamı azl ettiler. Tahtı muhakemeye aldılar." Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

What about the trials?
The article mentions that he was accused of an attempted assassination of Ataturk, yet there is no link, nor explanation of this. Regardless of 88.240.99.152's above statement by a (presumed) Turkish Nationalist, Hafiz' witness of the Armenian Genocide seams well cited, but there is nothing about the assassination. Please explain more on this as this is very important part of the story. Dinky town  talk  09:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your observation. I agree with you, and it did bother me that I found very little information on his role in the attempted assassination. After all, there were 32 people who were charged for it, so highlighting the roles for each person would be a big scholarly task. I hear that a lot of people in the scholarly world now say that they were trumped up charges. I'm pretty sure Turkish sources would have it, but I can't get my hands on them. I found some information through google books, but they were only accessible through snippet views. Another fact that surprised me was that the Izmir trials does not have an article on Wikipedia. That would've been helpful for me as well. Étienne Dolet (talk) 09:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I figured that it would have been a show trail since making his Armenian Genocide statements would not have made him any friends - even back then. I also imagine that it would be a source of contention for many Turkish Nationalists (namely 88.240.99.152 statement above), but it should be mentioned as a matter of principal.  I know our work is never done, and it will/may take time.  Good article anyway since '...it gets me's to think-en', which is always a good result... - take care... Dinky town   talk  10:10, 31 December 2014 (UTC)