Talk:Hammer

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Need to add something on hammers with moving parts like jack-hammers.

Better to just make a link to the page War Hammer than add a whole section just for a sentence (Dec 2010)

Fixed vandalism Ghost of starman 13:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)Ghost of starman

Fixed vandalism "yo mama...." AeturnalNarcosis (talk) 20:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hammers are used to perform measurements?
The second sentence in the article is now "Hammers are also used to perform measurements." While this might well be true, it's hardly deserving of mention before other much more common uses of hammers (driving and pulling nails, shaping and bending metals, breaking up concrete, etc., etc.) Perhaps this measurement use could be moved further down in the article. Cheers, Madmagic 07:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but removed it completely as the same argument can be used for any tool. It's hardly noteworthy Graibeard 07:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Disagree. There are a wide variety of inspection hammers that is not intended to drive, pull, shape or significantly break up material.
 * Inspection hammers is used to gauge surface strength or make diagnostic sound in constructions.
 * Further there is a physicians reflex hammer / percussion hammer
 * Both which is clearly used for measuring
 * A reflex hammer is a medical instrument used by practitioners to test deep tendon reflexes.
 * A percussion hammer with a rubber head used for tapping surfaces of the body in order to produce sounds for diagnostic purposes.


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflex_hammer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Windmaker~enwiki (talk • contribs) 07:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I think it refers to, say, the number of force needed to drive an object much like a torque wrench. There are loads of hammers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.187.34 (talk) 18:54, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

make me a timeline
make me 1 of the hammer pls SH CLASS OF 2K21 TAKING OVER FASHION

Images
If you want, I have just uploaded a nice picture of a hammer (public domain) that I took. Hope this helps. Leif902 23:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Basic hammer physics
This makes no sense: "High tech titanium heads are lighter and allow for longer handles, thus increasing velocity and delivering more energy with less arm fatigue than that of a steel head hammer of the same weight."

If the titanium hammer is lighter than the steel one, how can you compare its blows with those of a steel hammer of the same weight? Skyrocket654 03:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

By increasing the head's volume - since titanium has a lower density, you will need a larger head to have a head with the same mass as a given steel head.

However, I would like to concur with Skyrocket that the physics entry needs work; for one thing, it is patently false that the physics of swinging a hammer are as simple as kinetic energy in head = muscle force * arc length, as a human arm is a class three lever, meaning that the force at the hammer head may be different than the muscle force. If we let the torso be the fulcrum for simplicity, a human swinging a hammer with an outstretched arm of length "l" and muscle force "f" will have a hammerhead force of fl/h, where h is the handle length. Further, there is more to this than how much energy is stored in the head; as the entry does note, it's very important how far the head travels before stopping, and while I'm no physicist, it seems clear that since momentum is mass times velocity, and stopping something represents a change in momentum where typically you can't change the mass, the more mass the head has, the less velocity (for the same momentum), implying that a high mass head is "easier" to stop - i.e. it should travel less distance before stopping, *increasing* the functional force delivered. Also, recoil is covered under the handle section, but as noted there, the head material matters - apparently steel is 9 times more elastic than titanium, according to the entry - and I would think that belonged under the head section. Lastly, surely the surface area of the hammer matters a lot? The drag on the hammer head will increase with the square of the velocity, so you'll want to put some effort into making the head aerodynamic, and of course pressure matters - there's more to that pin having a wide head than making it easier to hit, you know.

Could someone who knows what they're talking about (i.e. not me) take a look, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.27.153 (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I've made a small edit to the faulty sentence. Further improvement might be made in another eight years? No-one would bother with the aerodynamics of the head, since air resistance is negligible for the speed of most hammers.  There might be some specialist mechanically-driven hammers that travel at high speed, but I doubt whether even these have streamlined heads because shape affects the result of the impact.    D b f i r s   16:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Removal of Empirix's Hammers from Symbolic Hammers
Dear Wizard191. I can appreciate that there may be some justifiable reason for removing entries in a particular article, but it would be really helpful (not to mention courteous) to at least leave the previous editor/contributor a note and reason for removing the edits. This applies to the Symbolic Hammers section and the External Links section. Right now I am dumbfounded as to why you have done this, and I request that you refrain from doing so in the future without a decent explanation. Otherwise, your removal of information appears to be vandalism. Thank you for your kind attention, Gbeith —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbeith (talk • contribs) 22:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply on your talk page. --Wizard191 (talk) 02:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hammer age
I believe this is the second time I have set the age of the oldest hammer. I have TWO references to refereed journals, both of which give the age as 2.6 million years NOT 2.4.

Please do not change this unless you have a reference which shows mine are wrong. Nick Beeson (talk) 15:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Hammer as musical instrument?
Does anyone know how many times that a hammer has been used as a musical instrument, either in antiquity or in modern times? (Hammered dulcimers don't count.) Two examples I have heard in modern times are Johnny Cash's version of "The Legend of John Henry's Hammer" from the album "At Folsom Prison" and the Indigo Girls song "Orville Eastland (talk) 14:10, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

A hammer is a key component of several concert percussion instruments: Then, there's the whole topic of Wagner's Ring cycle, and its hammer symbolism: [] ResearcherQ (talk) 03:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * hammer with chimes
 * hammer with glockenspiel
 * hammer with anvil
 * hammer with bells, orchestral bells
 * hammered dulcimer
 * cimbalom (sp?)
 * a key component of a piano are its felt hammers. There's a whole topic of "voicing" piano hammers

Blister?
I'm sorry if this seems like an unusual questions, but what is relevance of 'Blister' to this article? There is a picture of a blood blister, and a link to the blister article, but really... why? Yes, using tools can give you blisters, but it can also give you cramp, or a bruise if you smack your finger... etc.? Figured I would ask the relevance before removing. Happy Anglo New Year and all that jazz 203.167.189.37 (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Types of hammers
This english article is way worse than the Dutch article, which has a table; see http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_(gereedschap) Can someone translate it and put the table on the english version ? 91.182.51.243 (talk) 15:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Types of Hammers

Would like to see a more comprehensive listing with descriptions of hammers under the heading in the article ... "Popular hand-powered variations include:..." From some work I did a while ago, we may wish to add the following types of hammer...

Ant-vibration hammers, with built-in tuning-fork design to minimise vibrations

Brass or nylon-faced hammer for assembly work

Brick hammer, commonly used by bricklayers with a chisel-end for splitting and facing bricks and blocks

Bumping hammer used with a dolly for car body restoration work

Chipping or scaling hammer, often with a shock reducing spring handle, used by metal-workers to clean welds

Copper and raw-hide faced hammer, for damage-free assembly work

Drywall hammer, with a serrated hammering face and an opposing axe face

Planishing hammer used in panel beating

Roofing or slating hammer, with a spike for making holes in roof slates, a nail-extracting claw and a recessed hammering face

Scutch or walling hammer, with two combing faces for dressing masonry

Slide hammer, with a heavy weight on a guide-bar used for loosening tight assemblies

Splitting hammer, with a wedge-shaped axe-head for splitting timber

Stubby hammer, with a short handle for work in confined spaces

Would also like to cite my work on the subject, entitled "The Gaffer's Glossary - Hammers" at http://www.comparetradeprices.com/content/advice/2011/03/07/hammer/ as an additional external reference

Bill Cobbett (talk) 16:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Bill Cobbett


 * Attention, a guide-bar would not be the same thing as a guide bar. Peter Horn User talk 15:11, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Pink Floyd's Marching Hammers?
Lol, I think there should be a "In Popular Culture" section that mentions the "Marching Hammers" from The Wall...... --GreekRailFan (talk) 11:15, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Birmingham screwdriver
Law of the instrument makes mention of the Birmingham screwdriver as meaning "hammer" (as Birmingham screwdriver links to this article)--though within the former article, it links to Birmingham and screwdriver individually. However, here there is no mention of the Birmingham hammer. Talk:Birmingham screwdriver suggests interested parties to see Screwdriver for an explanation. Does anyone have any further explanation to add, and shouldn't the explanation be given here instead of at Screwdriver? D. F. Schmidt (talk) 21:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've heard it as "Scouse screwdriver" (an insult to Liverpool workmen). Lazy carpenters on building sites have a habit of hammering hinge screws into soft wood, and maybe finding a screwdriver at the end to give a final turn, or forgetting and leaving the screws to loosen when the door is used.  The linking is not appropriate.  Where should the explanation be put?    D b f i r s   15:55, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Bold changes to lead
I made some bold changes to the lead, but I'm not wedded to my work; revert at will.

My impression of the article was that it was somehow overtaken with strife over hammer taxonomy, most of which was pushed downward out of the lead.

Meanwhile, much else that the lead should properly summarize fell into neglect. I've touched on some of the physics and physiology as well as general desiderata, but a more concerted effort would be warranted. &mdash; MaxEnt 02:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Regarding pre-plannng actions which proceed too quickly for real-time feedback, you may be aware of William H. Calvin's The Cerebral Symphony: Seashore Reflections on the Structure of Consciousness which covers some of the mechanisms involved. Just plain Bill (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Lots of original research
I came to the article to learn more about the physics behind hammers, and I wasn't necessarily disappointed because this article goes into a lot of detail about that. I'm not seeing very many citations across this entire article though, additionally the writing style doesn't seem consistent with the rest of Wikipedia: It feels conversational in some places and lacks structure elsewhere, even in the lead. Does anyone more experienced than me think it's a good idea to look into for the Physics section in particular and possibly  for the rest of the article?

--Simsarmy (talk) 16:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

"Hammer (substitution)" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Hammer (substitution) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 3 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 17:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

drywall hammers?
i would add them to types of hammers,also make an article later about them and link it to this page.

just wana ask for green light. first time editing anything so. Pagan.Chad (talk) 22:09, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

T.L.E
About this electrical tools 120.28.169.5 (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

TLE
What do you recommend of a hammer 2001:4453:65E:D00:745D:717A:87AB:1E6 (talk) 16:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)