Talk:Hampartsoum Boyadjian

Two Murads
I deleted some addings (and a photo) by user:Seemsclose related to Sebastatsi Murad who was a different person and really died in Baku 3 years later than Medzn Murad. Andranikpasha (talk) 22:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I moved some info on Murad of Sebastia to the separate article. Andranikpasha (talk) 00:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

-- Takabeg (talk) 12:21, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "Hampartsoum Boyadjian" -Llc 3
 * "Hampartsum Boyadjian" -Llc 2

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Hampartsoum Boyadjian → Murad (fedayi) – WP:COMMONNAME Relisted. BDD (talk) 23:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC) Ե րևանցի  talk  18:31, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * "Hampartsoum Boyadjian" -Llc -Wikipedia -Cram101 Textbook Reviews - O results
 * "Murad" "fedayi" - 45 results
 * Oppose - current article is at French spelling, but should be WP:COMMONNAME Hampartsum Boyadjian as base comparison. Against the normal English spelling "Murad + fedayi" doesn't compete. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hampartsum Boyadjian is almost never used. See Google Books results for "Hampartsum Boyadjian": only 7 results . He is widely known as Murad the fedayi, not Hampartsum Boyadjian (in whatever spelling). -- Ե րևանցի talk  23:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Then Hampartsum Boyajian (Armenian Review, or Raymond Kévorkian - 2011) or Hampartsum Boyadjian (Walker Armenia, the survival of a nation 1980 Page 402) ...better something used and WP:natural disambiguation - plus the possibility of confusion per "and "Murad the Great" (real name: Hambardzum Boyadjian) — not to be confused with Sebastatsi Murad (real name: Murad Khrimian). also called Murad, also a fedayi. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:14, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that your first GB result is actually the other Murad fedayi. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * There were two famous fighters who had "Murad" in their name: Sebastatsi Murad (aka Murad of Sebastia, Murad of Sivas) and Murad, who was a leading member of the Hnchak party. The first Murad (of Sbeastia) was always referred to as Sebastatsi Murad and never just Murad, while this one was known as simply Murad (or less often Mets(n) Murad). So what's the problem here? -- Ե րևանցի  talk  01:03, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Support move, oppose Murad (fedayi). Out of all 45 books, only two seem to be referring to this person. Two authors use Medzn Mourad and two also use Mets Murad. --HouseOfArtaxiad (talk) 14:40, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.