Talk:Harry Fox Agency

Online Tab sites
Would it be proper to mention here the recent battles the HFA has undertaken against online tab sites? From a NPOV of course.Sabalon 14:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'd also like to see something about this:

"1. Music publishers balk at ringtone licensing mandate

That sure didn't take long. The same day the U.S. Copyright Office ruled in favor of a compulsory licensing model for ringtones, one of the leading publishing groups announced plans to ignore it. The Harry Fox Agency issued a statement saying: "This decision has no effect on HFA's existing policy that digital phonorecord delivery licenses issued by HFA on behalf of publishers are limited to the making and distribution of full downloads comprising full-length musical works and do not cover the additional configurations of ringtones or mastertones. HFA has not issued and is not issuing ringtone or mastertone licenses under the compulsory license provisions of Section 115."

HFA is no lightweight in this game. The group has basically stalled the launch plans of several digital music subscription services by demanding higher rates than existing services currently pay. Music publishers by and large are lawyers, and like nothing more than suing people, so expect this challenge to go to court post-haste.

Check out the full update: - in Digital Music News post " Mathiastck 19:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

HFA is not involved in the lyric/tablature lawsuits mentioned; they are the actions of its parent company, the NMPA and/or the MPA. As to the ringtone comment, HFA has been licensing ringtone companies for several years in a free market. Finally, regarding licensing online subscription services, here is CEO Gary Churgin's statement on that status of that situation: "Songwriters and music publishers have not received one penny from the online music subscription services since they began operation in 2001 under the agreement with the RIAA. While some advances were paid under that agreement, the money cannot be distributed until a rate is established. Meanwhile, everyone else in the online music economy is profiting, including the record companies. In order to ensure that publishers and songwriters begin to be paid for the use of their music by these services, HFA is seeking to enter into agreements with individual services at mutually acceptable rates pending the establishment of an industry-wide rate.” Lljay 17:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio
The 'article' as it stands is just a copy of a sentence from the organization's own website. No outside verification of claim....should be rewritten with outside sources.--Smerus (talk) 09:25, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

additional information
Hello. I am Somtow Sucharitkul, the conductor of the "struggling youth orchestra" referred to in the article. Although it was certainly irritating to be told that this public domain work was under the control of the Harry Fox Agency, and doubly irritating to have my dispute rejected by them, so that they reinstated their claim after having it pointed out that Strauss died in 1849, I have to say that HFA did not themselves threaten to sue me. I received a warning from youtube that if I were to dispute the reinstated claim, HFA might sue me and I might even be banned from YouTube. I don't want to correct the article as I am mentioned in it, but would provide copies of the correspondence if requested. HFA withdrew their claim, but a day later I received another erroneous claim on a youtube clip also attributed to them - this time they got the wrong work completely, and it too was in the public domain.

Somtow (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC) Somtow Sucharitkul


 * Primary sources are not good references. Perhaps you could take your story to a reputable publisher first. --beefyt (talk) 07:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Edits July 2013
Hi there - NMotley no longer works at HFA. We apologize for her lack of sources. We made some factual edits to the page. We added sections on what the company does and descriptions of the services it offers. The section about Copyright Claims was very biased and mostly false so, as per Wikipedia's guidelines, we edited with unbiased language about what actually happened. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfalvo (talk • contribs) 14:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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Why the name?
The article doesn't say why it's called the Harry Fox Agency. It seems never to have been owned by anyone named Harry Fox, and it doesn't seem to have any connection with the only Harry Fox we have an article about. There's no mention of the origin of the name here, on Harry Fox, on National Music Publishers Association, or on the HFA's own website. This seems like something the article should explain. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 20:16, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Copyright claims
How do i get a sync license AC2209 (talk) 12:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)