Talk:Havarti

Vandalism
ummmm "Havarti, along with being nutritious, is also a good food for possums, as discovered recently by Saul Winer.Possums, a very rare species are really.......AWESOME! Havarti is a cheese, made of possum milk." this sounds like a joke, but i'm not 100% so i won't remove it. but someone should look into it Iamnobody2 10:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I think the source for the history of the cheese isn't reliable.
The source(s) for the history of the cheese, specifically 3, but in part also 4 and 5. No sources are cited for these claims, and outside of these articles I have been, myself, unable to find any sources on this, Danish or English, not even the website of Havarthigaard (https://havarthigaarden.dk/) says this. Therefore, I think the inclusion of this topic should maybe not be there, to make sure none of what is being said is untrue. Primake (talk) 23:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposed improvement to history section

 * Danish havarti was previously called "Danish Tilsiter" after the German cheese type tilsiter.  Danish production began in 1921. In 1952, the cheese was named Havarti, after Havartigården near Holte, where the Danish cheese pioneer Hanne Nielsen worked in the 1800s. Among other cheeses, Nielsen created a Tilsit cheese with cumin for King Christian IX of Denmark.


 * Some sources such as The Oxford Companion to Cheese say that Nielsen invented Havarti cheese, while the Dansk Biografisk Leksikon states that the current Havarti is not based on her cheese making.

TSventon (talk) 17:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * My issue with that is that other sources say otherwise. Going this route makes it easier for other editors to claim that the information is wrong per other reliable sources. SL93 (talk) 16:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Per WP:RS - "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered." SL93 (talk) 16:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * There is also WP:BALANCE. SL93 (talk) 16:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * SL93, I am aiming at WP:BALANCE. I have added another paragraph, is that an improvement? The sources don't seem to dispute the facts, but have a different interpretation. TSventon (talk) 17:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but we should include all interpretations from reliable sources. I will work what you wrote into the article and ping you for your opinion. SL93 (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * SL93, please post to talk page so we can agree first. TSventon (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't just because I directly copied and pasted what you wrote except for the world "Danish". Maybe a compromise for the Nielsen hook would be just to mention the king fact and add what you wrote to the Nielsen article as well? SL93 (talk) 17:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I want to get the text right before the hook and prefer my second section to the current version. For example the Guide to the Cheeses of Wisconsin has two and a half lines on the history of Havarti, so it has to give a simplified version of what the longer sources say. Cheesemarket news says both the cheese was "brought to Denmark by cheese pioneer Hanne Nielsen" and "Danish Havarti dates back to the the 1920s but was not named until 1952". TSventon (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no idea how to do what you want. It's probably best for you to work on that part. SL93 (talk) 17:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that your paragraph beginning "Nielsen may have invented Havarti cheese" overstates the conflict between sources, so I prefer my paragraph above beginning "Some sources such as ''The Oxford". I could replace your paragraph, but you probably wouldn't agree. TSventon (talk) 18:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I replaced it myself. SL93 (talk) 18:06, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you, see the other page. TSventon (talk) 18:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Be bold!
WP:BEBOLD! FOR THOSE who post things here like "this page is bad" or "the history is no good", why don't you go ahead and update it yourself? Like TSventon and SL93 are doing. -- Doctorx0079 (talk) 19:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)