Talk:Hayreddin Barbarossa

Ethnicity
Barbarossa was an ethnic Turk. The April issue of Turkish magazine (http://www.ntvtarih.com) states in the article about him that Barbarossa clearly identifies he's of Turkish origin in the inscription of the mosque that he had financed in Algiers. KaraSipahi (talk) 11:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually his mother was a daughter of a Greek priest, but his father was a Turk.--Cerian (talk) 18:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I seem tobe making a worse mess of this talk pa ge, by trying to fix the damage wrought by a colleague from the "any one can edit Wikipedia, biz they [that's us, which includes me] tolerate participation by even well meaning yet reckless editors Jerzy•t 02:49, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Mea culpa
&nbsp Sorry, I undertook to fix a talk contrib that was ignorantly dumped at the top off the pg (like on a listserv discussion, instead of  immediately *after*, and  I made things a little worse in the attempt. I'm undertaking a new currentStatus  section at the top of my user page, Jerzy•t —Preceding undated comment added 03:20, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Untitled
Why has this article been whitewashed of all mentions of the barbery slave trade and Hayreddin Barbarossa's enthusiastic and prolific involvement thereof? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.205.231.214 (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Should we even include the "Albanian origin"?
I wonder whether we should include the putative Albanian origin at all. We have all sources speaking of Turkish origin beside the few cited here to support the "Albanian claim" (to be clear, beside the sources provided in the article and available at Google books, Britannica clearly states his father was a Turk, and Treccani, the Italian encyclopedia, like Britannica and all other national encyclopedias, makes no mention of even a possible Albanian origin). Then, if we want to reason with our head, we known he was born in Palaiokipos and that his father was from Giannitsa, that he was not of devshirme origin, and that he was not the son of a janissary, but the son of a sipahi. We have three sources for the Albanian claim across the board. I am positive that Bozbora does not mention Barbarossa at all. At least that should be removed. The rest are two books by Italian authors. Capponi is derivative of Panzanelli. The latter's is a translation of Heers, in which there is a casual mention, with Heers not providing a modicum of evidence for the claim, nor any analysis whatsoever. This is an extraordinary claim, and I believe it all might be a case of Verifiable but not false.--Haldir Marchwarden (talk) 11:41, 1 September 2021 (UTC)