Talk:Heart murmur

Sound
It might be a good idea to get the sounds of a heart murmur. You know audio of each grade of heart murmur so that we can get a feel. Cause the description is a little off.71.142.242.233 (talk) 07:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Cardinal Raven


 * There's till no sound files 5 years later. Pleasetry (talk) 00:48, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Same love
i dont know Heart mumurs are nothing to be scared of but should be monitored my boyfriend has one and it scared me when he told me now i dont see him different —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.3.138.9 (talk) 23:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Systolic murmurs
Not at all sure where this heading comes from. That all such systolic murmurs are serious is undoubtedly false. Also, not sure where "The 50/50 chance of dying during surgery" comes from. I will delete, and if anyone has an objection they can restore.

Organic/Functional murmurs
I think the explanations given here for this classification are not accurate nor complete. Organic are murmurs caused by a direct lesion/disease of the heart while functional is divided into organo-functional, functional and anorganic and are due to intrinsic disturbances to the blood flow in the heart. Also, the claim that all functional murmurs are innocent is not true. I hope someone with more knowledge then me, will make the correct adjustment if needed.89.136.142.55 (talk) 15:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Required
I think a sound file of a heart murmur heard with a stethoscope should be uploaded. Pdiddyjr (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Too technical
This entry is way too complicated for the average Wikipedia reader to understand. I think it needs to be completely re-written so it reads more like an general health article for the public and less like a medical school textbook. For example, the entry refers to "Post ectopic potentiation" but the vast majority of Wikipedia users won't have the slightest idea what that means. Here's another one: "Inhalation leads to an increase in intrathoracic negative pressure..." I rewrote the first paragraph but the whole thing needs to be rewritten. Rissa, copy editor 01:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Which heart valve?
The first paragraph used to say a murmur is caused by blood flowing over a heart valve but didn't specify which heart valve. I changed it to "Heart murmurs are pathologic heart sounds produced when blood flows across one of the heart valves...." If a heart murmur only flows across a specific heart valve or all of them, then I think it would be useful to readers if this changed to say which one etc. Also, is there another word that can be used for "pathologic" or can it be dropped? Thank you. Rissa, copy editor 00:56, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Why does "pansystolic" redirect here?
Word not used in article. 109.157.79.50 (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Gibson Murmur
Entry for George Alexander Gibson links here because he was the first discoverer of a heart murmur, known as the Gibson Murmur and this page links back to him - but nowhere does it state which of these murmurs is the Gibson murmur. Agree with other commenters that this page should be rewritten. Too medical. JEH (talk) 17:02, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Feedback on Goals for 3/9

 * Some terms still need to be de-jargonized, linked, or explained (i.e. mid-clavicular, preload, afterload, ventricle, extremities, benign)
 * I feel ‘Radiation’ could be explained better as the sentence is “Radiation refers to where the sound of the murmur radiates”

Feedback on Goals for 3/16

 * Medical references need to be updated to be in the last 5 years. Impressively there is a study from 1933!
 * I would love to see some citations that are patient-geared for people to click

Feedback on Goals for 3/21

 * Looks like you are still working on these goals
 * Love the idea to include illustrations! Pictures will definitely improve this page.
 * Physiological explanations and more heart murmur audio files sound terrific!

Overall
Keep up the work! I think this page has great potential, and your contributions will enhance this page greatly! According to your progress WikiMed, you have not added citations yet. Focus on those this week as well as adding images and improving readability (eliminate medical jargon). According to Hemingway Editor, most of the text is at a grade 9 level. I think fixing the jargon will help with readability for a lay audience.

Editor Response to Peer Review
Hi SDpsych, I appreciate you reviewing my article and work plan. Please find my responses to your feedback below:

Feedback on Goals for 3/9:
 * Thank you for the suggestions. I went through the article to provide links for most of the medical terms. I also explained some terms that I could not find links for.
 * I replaced ‘radiates’ with ‘travels’ to remove the redundancy.

Feedback on Goals for 3/16:
 * Thanks for the tips. I updated medical references with recent textbooks and patient education articles that are within the last 5 years. The patient education article should is specifically geared for patients.

Feedback on Goals for 3/21:
 * I attempted to include illustrations by searching the creative commons link recommended by Wikipedia. However, I did not find good and appropriate images for this article. Searches included ‘heart murmur’, ‘heart’, ‘auscultation’, ‘stethoscope’, ‘heart areas’. Do you recommend any other ways to find images that can be uploaded to Wikipedia?
 * I included physiologic explanations to further describe heart murmurs. This included links to medical terms such as ‘afterload’, ‘preload’, ‘systemic vascular resistance’, etc.
 * Similar to images I used creative commons to search for audio files and did not find any that were representative of heart murmurs. Do you have any recommendations places to find audio files that can be used on Wikipedia?

Overall: Thank you for your peer review. I included citations as you recommended. I also used hemingway editor to improve readability of the article. It has gone from postgraduate level to grade 9 or lower. I believe this article still requires work, however is much improved from prior. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaramelMind (talk • contribs) 17:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC)