Talk:Heartstopper (TV series)

Alt text

Bbb23, can you explain how alt texts are not helpful to the article? They are for accessibility means. As for lead citations, I remove them because they clutter the lead, and redundant since it should be the body that does the job. And it does. GeraldWL 02:51, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

You removed every single citation from the lead. With a lead that long, there's nothing wrong with citations. One of your alt's actually had a caption, but the others were all "Refer to caption". I confess I don't fuss much with the alt= field, but how is that helpful? Finally, you added this line at the end of the lead: "Production of the former had commenced." The only thing about the second season that's in the body is a scheduled month for beginning filming.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

"Refer to caption" denotes that the caption is already an alt in its regard, and to fill that parameter is to ensure screen readers won't uselessly say out the file name (e.g. "File colon example. j-peg"). From what a lot of blind people told me, say, in a human picture, an entire description of their looks would be overlong, invaluable. I find Kit's and the exhibition's image to be well-described in the caption; we would be overloading readers with information. This is proof that it's common practice. GeraldWL 15:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Mixtape

As far as I'm concerned, the Season 1 mixtape has been adjusted to incorporate music of Season 2. Would appreciate it if someone adjusted so, or correct me if I'm wrong. GeraldWL 03:47, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Pride parade pict

Countessluann, I'm wondering what does Joe and Kit's pride parade picture serve in the "Impact" section. Because on laptop it is squeezing the accolades table, and I don't see it being an exemplary impact of the show. GeraldWL 04:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I just removed it. I didn't realize it would throw off the table below it. Countessluann (talk) 11:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Finale

Bbb23, the new plot summary of the season 2 finale I feel is too long. Per MOS:TV, "For main series articles, plot summaries of no more than 200 words per episode." The episode could be easily summarised to 200 words or more or less. Can you explain the additions, because reading them, I think there can be a much shorter alternative. GeraldWL 12:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I figured someone might object to the length, and although I thought the detail was important, I struggled when I wrote it not to make it too long. As for the word-number guideline, it's not that much longer (I get 251 words). If you have any suggestions, I'm open to them, but, meanwhile, I'll try to trim it myself given it's my doing. It is the longest of the episodes and, in some ways, the most important of the series thus far.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:00, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis, I trimmed it to 193 words. What do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:08, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I trimmed it around 100 words further; a lot of it is just simplifying to make the summary flow the same way as the previous summaries. There were also contractions which WP restricts on. The final scene I trimmed to just "going home"; yes it is a poignant scene and in a way symbolic of their relationship climate, but to readers who do not watch the series (we can't assume people just come here for a season recap), it is no more significant than a couple taking 5 minutes to text "I love you." Per MOS:TVPLOT, "Plot sections should summarize the core storyline(s), but not offer a scene-by-scene sequence of everything that happens." Feel free to comment, though, if you found some problems. GeraldWL 03:35, 12 August 2023 (UTC)