Talk:Heinrich von Kleist

Marionette Theater
I have updated the paragraph on the Marionette Theater essay. My version may be less philosophically precise, but I found the original jargony enough that it was incomprehensible to me. The use of English was also somewhat weak. I would welcome further editing from anyone who is more familiar with the topic and can integrate some of the technical terms into my user-friendly summary. I was uncertain as to where the original author's reference to Fichte was meant to fit in, so it would also help if someone could make that passage more specific. Inhumandecency 01:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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Imprisonment
Every reference article, including wikipedia, on Fort de Joux mentions that von Kleist was a prisoner there. This article mentions only that he was imprisoned in Châlons-sur-Marne. Can this be clarified? --Storkk (talk) 11:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC) Oh, and no, Fort de Joux is nowhere near Châlons-sur-Marne, so that isn't the source of the confusion. cheers, --Storkk (talk) 11:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently, one after the other: first (27 January 1807) in Fort de Joux, then on 9 April 1807 in Châlons-sur-Marne. See de:Heinrich von Kleist, Jean Ruffet: "Kleist en prison", Bernd Fischer: A companion to the works of Heinrich von Kleist, p. 5. Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Suicide?
Shouldn't there be more on this? Malick78 (talk) 14:51, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't the leftist/post-modern wikipedia editors care to mention that Kant drove this fellow to kill himself at the age of 34? Or they could, as per their expected behaviour of distorting knowledge at least mention his suicide and then mumble about Kant being wrongly interpreted here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.48.121 (talk) 13:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ... or they could point out that it was 1811 when Kleist was 34 and killed himself, and that Kant had died in 1804. If this article would elaborate on Kant's influence on Kleist, it might point out that Kleist's reading of Kant's Critique of Judgment and the subsequent letters to Ulrike, the "Kant Crisis", occurred from 1799 to 1801. But you are welcome to mention any sources that support your assertion. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

'Henriette Vogel and murder-suicide' ?
The section heading is inappropriate. They both jointly decided to seek death. Kleist shooting Henrietta first before killing himself should not be called 'murder'. More appropriate is a heading like 'Henriette and joint-suicide'. I will change this unless there are strong and reasoned objections. RM Vollmer 17:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RM Vollmer (talk • contribs)


 * How our German colleagues describe the event is of no relevance here, nor is Vogel's letter from 21 November 1811. Kleist's shooting of Vogel and then himself can only be called murder–suicide. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)