Talk:Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter

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This article appears to have been written by someone who wishes to promote the work of John E Woods. The same hand was (before I modified it) at work in the article on Mann's Doctor Faustus. I have there removed the unreferenced expressions of opinion, which had remained for several months despite a clear challenge in the discussion page. In the present article I have posted requests for citations on the contents of statements which appear to be statements of editor opinion without reference. As this article is about H T Porter Lowe (d 1963) the work of John E Woods, whose translations belong to a later generation, cannot have any bearing except in a posthumous comparison, which would require citation for reference in wikipedia. Eebahgum 10:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This article has been thoroughly cleaned up now (by me and others) and seems alright. It's a pity we don't have more information about the life of Lowe-Porter herself. She wrote a little autobiography which I read in the 1960s, but I can't find a trace of it anymore. The translator's role is not a glamorous one.... [Karl Marling, March 8, 2008.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.229.139.9 (talk) 22:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

One of the best translators?
Reading Thomas Mann in German I do not know her translations. But it seems quite speculative to tribute her with the popularity of a Nobel Prize winning author. This and the claim that she is one of the best translators strongly need to be referenced or I will delete them. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Deleted it now. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 08:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

If you don't know her translations, Gunnar, why do you offer an opinion? Jean Cocteau said: "Thomas Mann and Proust were lucky in their translators." Sie scheinen ein bisschen zu spinnen.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.241.70 (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I do not state an opinion on her capabilities as a translator - the article did and did so without giving a reference. But that was the less important of my two problems. If anyone can give a reference that she is considered a great translator - feel free to add it, this is possible but not sourced yet.
 * But the article also said that Thomas Mann's popularity in the U.S. was mainly due to her. This statement even more strongly needs a major reference. Thomas Mann has won the Nobel Prize and is an influential writer in his own right. I will not accept any unreferenced claim that his standing in the U.S. was only made possible or was considerably improved my Ms. Lowe-Porter. This is how WP works: If you add an unreferenced statement to an article and someone else doubts it, it is going to be removed. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 09:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the lesson, Gunnar. It was deeply appreciated.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.241.70 (talk) 22:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

NPOV
As far as I am concerned, the article has a NPOV now. So the POV tag can be removed. Any disagreements? Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 07:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Gunnar, you're a prince! That word could be spelled with five letters though....

= Error over error. . . = I'm glad to see that someone corrected the error in Buck's list of Lowe-Porter's errors (namely a "postage stamp" in Joseph and his Brothers, of all places). That screamed to high heaven! Now it's in Death in Venice - at any rate more plausibly.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.27.70 (talk) 23:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

=To the Wikipedia Editors= Every syllable in this article has been firmly grounded in a citation now (for several months), so you might at last remove the "This-article-needs-additional-citations-for-verification" tag.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.78.80 (talk) 23:22, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Nickname?
The text says: "Mann expressed his appreciation to Lowe-Porter for her work, nicknaming her "die Lowe" ("the lion" in German)".

Is this really meant to be a nickname? The word "Lowe" doesn't meant anything in German. "The lion" would be either "der Löwe" (male) or "die Löwin" (female). It seems to me that he simply referred to her by name adding the female article which is not unusual, e.g. Marlene Dietrich was often referred to as "die Dietrich" or Hildegard Knef as "die Knef".91.22.6.30 (talk) 20:20, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Move
Why was this moved without discussion? H.T. Lowe-Porter was the name she used. Rothorpe (talk) 22:44, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Relevance of Boris Johnson?
There is no source to establish her relationship to Boris Johnson. Does his entry say that he is the great-grandson of Helen Lowe-Porter? Her notability is that she is the literary translator who first translated most of Thomas Mann's novels into English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artatra (talk • contribs) 18:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)