Talk:Helena Dragaš

Helena Dragas is actually the Greek queen of Byzantium with the name Helen – Dragasis Palaiologos also known as Saint Hipomoni!
In the article Helena Dragas she is not refered with her real full name. She was the Queen of Byzantium with the name Augusta Helen – Dragasis Palaiologos, daughter of the emperor of Slavic nation, Constantine Dragasis. She became empress of Byzantium as wife of Emmanuel B’ the Palaiologos and she was mother of the last emperor of Byzantium Costantine Palaiologos. I strongly suggest to change her name from Helena Dragas (which is slavic) to Helen – Dragasis Palaiologos (which is Greek), because she was an empress of Byzantium and firstly I don't find it appropriate to refer to her with her slavic name (she lived in Byzantium in Greece and not in Serbia) and secondly you can find plenty of reference with her name as Helen – Dragasis Palaiologos. Also many texts refer to her as Saint Patience (Saint Hipomoni). Her memory is celebrated in the Orthodox Greek church on 29 May 688dim (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Sigh... This has been discussed before. Read your talk page: . In short, for queen consorts, regardless of nationality, we retain their original names and titles. Constantine  ✍  21:08, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I know. I just wanted again to express my personal opinion that the name of the article should change to the more well known Helen – Dragasis Palaiologos. Also on the article she is not refered as Saint Hipomoni. 688dim (talk) 18:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

On Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women's History on the same subject I guess that the viewers agree with you. I just wanted to put the issue on a debate688dim (talk) 12:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC) ‎

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