Talk:Hengistbury Head

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rare species??
 * Nobody's stopping you from adding them. adamsan 19:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Template:Megalith
I've created a new template for megalithic sites, Template:Megalith, as used on Pikestones and Round Loaf. Some instructions on the template talk page, to show how to use it. Cheers! --PopUpPirate 13:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Channel as a river valley?
Surely not this far west 12500 years ago?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark Tranchant (talk • contribs) 08:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The evidence would suggest it. And don't call me Shirley. Hillbillyholiday talk 00:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Improving this article
I would love to hear from anyone out there interested in collaborating on improving this article. It could be easily expanded, the Head is a fascinating site from an historical and ecological point of view. It regular hosts educational field trips for schoolchildren but unfortunately the page here doesn't reflect the wealth of knowledge to be learned from study of the site.

I've made a small start (see Flora and Fauna section), but I lack the skills to bring this up to, say, Featured Article status (which Hengistbury Head could and should have!).

Hillbillyholiday81 (talk) 22:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sadly (isn't it always the case) I am too busy in real life and other Wikipedia efforts to offer much help in terms of editing. But I will offer my opinion, and hope that is helpful.
 * Not sure whether the site should be considered of mid-importance to the project. As a comparison, Kimmeridge is also mid-importance.
 * "The name" to "Toponymy" or "Etymology".
 * "History" might be better without some of the sub-headers.
 * "Geology and erosion" > "Geology" (erosion as a topic under this).
 * My thoughts so far. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your help Master. Hillbillyholiday talk 22:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Another critical thing to work on is the references. These should ideally be formed using the appropriate template |. I've converted a number myself, just to give an idea. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 17:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

The Black House
The involvement of the Black House in smuggling is doubtful to say the least, my understanding is it dates from 1848 which would be too late, the story about it being painted black as a result of smuggling being apocryphal though I think it is fair that the stories should be included but made clear they are unlikely to be true. I don't think the Black house web page can be regarded as a reliable source in respect to its own history. See Battle of Mudeford for more information about smuggling around Christchurch. Many thanks for your excellent work by the way. Phil Whiston (talk) 09:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers Phil. It's getting there! I've tidied the Black House bits up a bit but it still needs another reference to clarify things. Where did you hear 1848? Funny how it's easier to find information about the Paleolithic than the Georgian/Victorian period some times! Hillbillyholiday talk 17:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I was trying to work out where the 1848 date came from myself, it's on the Mudeford page, it is referenced but to a book that is still copyright, might see if I have time to look it up in a library.Phil Whiston (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Have done a bit more digging and found this in a Dorset County Council report, "Like nearby Mudeford Quay, the Sandbank has a notable maritime pedigree. Quite apart from the protection it afforded to the Quay itself there is known to have been a shipbuilding history on the spit, of which the last evidence is the Black House. This,built in 1848, appears to have been a workshop and dwelling for shipwrights. J E Holloway, of ironstone mining notoriety and a former mayor of Christchurch, had at least two significant ships built in the area as long ago as the 1840s, the “Viscountess Canning" of 193 tons and the “Enterprise" 253 tons. The area near the Black House also had a small community of actively used fishermen’s huts, of which one is known to have been a canteen. This was lost in the storm of 04 January 1998. There are still three of these on the site, used only for storage at present." http://www.dorsetforyou.com/media.jsp?mediaid=74488&filetype=pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,0,792 That seems to tie in with the more authoritative sources, but the smugglers story is a good one it just needs putting in context.Phil Whiston (talk) 12:30, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Good digging! I'll try to squeeze some of this in once i've had a good read of the pdf. Unless you want to do it..? Hillbillyholiday talk 18:51, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

17th, 18th and 19th centuries
I found some problems (my own doing) with the references in this section. Just found a new source that covers this period. It has this additional information, which I'm struggling to transliterate:
 * A signal station was maintained at Hengistbury Head for a period during the Napoleonic Wars.

Also this extra detail about Yarranton's plans may be worth inclusion, a block quote perhaps?:
 * Yarranton, in the course of his interest in the development of the Hampshire Avon in the middle of the 17th Century wrote: "At last I found in the area...great quantities of iron stones lie in a ridge. For in the sea pointing directly upon the Isle of Wight I found the ridge of ironstones was the cause that forced the ground tide about that point (Hengistbury Head) so that it had carried and lodged the sands so as it choked up the harbour. The great advantage is that the King may have all his iron made and guns cast at a very cheap rate. "There is the ironstone in the sea at the harbour mouth and the King hath vast quantities of wood decayed in the New Forest. If two furnaces be built about Ringwood to cast guns and two forges to make iron and the iron be brought from the harbour mouth off the sea up the river to the furnaces, and the charcoal out of the New Forest to the works there be sufficient of decayed wood to supply four iron works for ever."


 * -- Hillbillyholiday talk 15:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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