Talk:Hiam Abbass

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Untitled
ive edited this article because it had a POV. it stated that munich loosely depicts the israeli response to the munich massacre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.17.195.84 (talk) 21:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

it WAS a loose depiction, and marketed as such. the events in the film didn;t actually take place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.154.149.198 (talk) 12:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Gate of the Sun
She also had a significant role in the movie Gate of the Sun, the movie based on Elias Khoury's novel about the Palestinian diaspora. -Mokha128.208.35.57 00:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC) She also played The Driver in the Jim Jarmusch movie, The Limits of Control, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.207.45 (talk) 10:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Dégradé
She also had a role in Dégradé a 2014 French/Palestinian black comedy set in a salon in Gaza. Dégradé part of Cannes 2015 Iwasnteventhere (talk) 14:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Religion
Not that it's of huge importance, but sources differ on whether she's Muslim:"I heard other women say how I should behave or dress, as a Muslim woman" or Christian:"...a Palestinian Christian from Israel" Bangabandhu (talk) 22:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, the direct quote of hers saying she is Muslim is the valid one. LucyAyoubFan (talk) 01:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is another one from her native Israel, where it says that she is a (feminist) Muslim: https://www.haaretz.co.il/gallery/1.1373861 LucyAyoubFan (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Her native ***Palestine. She is a Palestinian from Palestine. Thank you! 2601:1C0:4C85:4B80:ECEA:592F:E9BE:2BFB (talk) 08:50, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Palestinian Identity
Hiam Abbass is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and is referred to in a plurality of sources as a Palestinian actress (here, here, and here, to name but a few). In this article on Israeli newspaper Haaretz, she also self-identifies as Palestinian. Her bio should be updated accordingly.Mrmalabi (talk) 07:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmalabi (talk • contribs) 20:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 June 2020
Change "Israeli-French" to "Palestinian" 73.71.67.223 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, as she clearly defines herself as Palestinian. However, I have left her Citizenship as French and Israeli (unless anyone can come up with any other sourced info), Huldra (talk) 23:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

== Formally she is an Israeli of Arab ethnicity. If she identifies her self as something else, this can be discussed elsewhere or mentioned. But cannot be a reason to change her title as an Israeli-French actress. ---

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 August 2020
She's referred to as "an Palestinian actress" where, grammatically, it should be "a Palestinian actress". 84.62.226.177 (talk) 20:54, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! You are correct, and hence: ✅. -Huldra (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 November 2021
Change born in Israel to Palestine, if you are saying she is a Palestinian actress. FionaMcP (talk) 17:08, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:51, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 December 2021
Hiam was born in Israel, so she is an Israeli actor, not Palestinian. There are almost 2M Arab citizens in Israel and they are all Israelis, not Palestinians. 104.53.70.103 (talk) 21:17, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done She defines herself as Palestinian, as can be seen from the source in the lead. That she has Israeli Citizenship is also stated in the info-box, Huldra (talk) 22:06, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Her "definition", does not change her nationality and citizenship which is Israeli-French. So this cannot be a reason to define her nationality as Palestinian. She can be defined as an Israeli-French actress of Arab ethnicity, or an Israeli-French actress (identified as a Palestinian), etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.46.146 (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If you look at the map, she was born in Palestine. The fact that it is occupied and you're "defining" the country by another name is not a reason to define her nationality as anything other than what it is--A Palestinian from Palestine. 2601:1C0:4C85:4B80:ECEA:592F:E9BE:2BFB (talk) 08:52, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

She identifies as Palestinian but is listed as Israeli
See this GQ source: https://www.gqmiddleeast.com/culture/hiam-abbass-oussekine 216.181.70.66 (talk) 12:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * But she literally calls herself a Palestinian many times in that same article, so we must respect that for the sake of accuracy. Trqalobaid (talk) 00:27, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Calling her Israeli is further erasing Palestine
She is Palestian from Palestine. Calling her Israeli with no mention of Palestine is disrespectful to her self-identification and is further erasing Palestine in favor of the settler-colonial state of Israel. 2601:1C0:4C85:4B80:7D6A:5DFD:8B17:DF32 (talk) 12:58, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree, even the 2nd citation article next to her nationalities has identified her as Palestinian multiple times across the article. Trqalobaid (talk) 00:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 June 2024
Hiam is Palestinian. Why does her Wikipedia page label her as “israeli-french” 73.14.171.172 (talk) 04:55, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Charliehdb (talk) 13:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * To clarify, the existing citation next to the description in the lead says she is Palestinian. She identifies as Palestinian, and she is an Israeli citizen, hence all the discussions above. The change was made here by, who used their own decision procedure to label Abbass. Sean.hoyland (talk) 14:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 June 2024
Hiam Abbas describes herself as Palestinian and so to call her Israeli erases her heritage: https://amp.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/jun/10/hiam-abbass-lina-soualem-bye-bye-tiberias ImDB also describes her as a Palestinian actress. She should be described as a Palestinian-French actress 2A02:8084:26C0:DC00:CCC2:4C9B:D8BA:E66B (talk) 22:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅, Huldra (talk) 23:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)