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List of episodes page[edit]

Why is the episode list part of the main page? Is this new policy? I tried creating the page, to move over the relevant section, but I got redirected to the main article. 2A02:A470:7AC5:1:3174:E8DB:D515:E3C7 (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, there are not enough episodes to split per MOS:TVSPLIT and Wikipedia:Article splitting (television). -- Alex_21_TALK 06:31, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Premise: "real world" or "our world"?[edit]

There is some dispute over whether the premise should read "The witches' prophecy also links Lyra's destiny to Will Parry, a teenager from the real world" or "The witches' prophecy also links Lyra's destiny to Will Parry, a teenager from our world".

There is no indication that our everyday world is any more real than the other worlds explored in the books and TV series – or, rather, that the parallel worlds are any less real.

Even though "our world" contravenes WP:OUR, surely this is not cast in stone and is far clearer in this instance? Or can you think of something more appropriate? Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 11:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Esowteric I reverted the original change from "real world" to "our world" because MOS:OUR is (unusually) very clear: "an article should never refer to its editors or readers". It states that some such forms are acceptable in certain figurative uses (examples are historical articles and scientific writing (but recasting is preferable). I don't think this article qualifies as an exception, so your challenge remains. My own preference would be simply to state that Will Parry comes from an Oxford in a world different from Lyra's.

Separately, is there any reliable source which states that Will Parry's world is in fact the one we all inhabit? Bazza (talk) 16:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Bazza 7. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 20:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. And I don't like "the conventional world" (the current text) either: nobody could accuse PP of being conventional. Given that all readers of Wikipedia necessarily live in "our world", I don't see that phrase as a reference to any particular editor or readers. Alan-24 (talk) 11:25, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A page before the Contents page in The Subtle Knife (the book, my copy printed in 1998) includes: "This volume moves between three universes: the universe of NORTHERN LIGHTS, which is like ours but different in many ways; the universe we know; and a third universe, which differs from ours in many ways again."

So the original author is quite explicit that Will's universe is "ours" or "the universe we know". To headline Will's world as "different from Lyra's" would feel to me like obfuscation. But "the real world" is also alien to the book: within the story, all 3 universes (and the extra ones introduced in vol 3) are all seen as equally real. Alan-24 (talk) 11:21, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Worth noting that, in a slightly bizarre choice, William McGregor is credited as '"This World" Director' in series 1. U-Mos (talk) 14:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian[edit]

@Neilinabbey: I undid your edit because, although The Guardian's own house style uses "the" for titles of newspapers, this article is not in The Guardian. Wikipedia's MOS requires "The Guardian" because the newspaper title includes "the". Bazza (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, if that's Wikipedia's preference. Seems a little disrespectful to the Guardian, but I understand the reasoning.Neilinabbey (talk) 13:58, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Description of series 1's reception[edit]

Could someone verify the following recent changes to the description of the reception given for series 1, at Rotten Tomatoes?

2601:5C1:4580:1330:5D47:E1B7:854B:770B (talk · contribs · WHOIS) changed the lede from:

All three series received generally positive reviews.

to While the first series received mostly mixed and low scores,"[2] the second and third series received generally positive reviews.

and Reception from:

Series one received positive reviews from critics.

to Series one received mixed-to-negative reviews from critics..

I note that the average rating has gone down from 6.99/10 to 5.75/10, but these descriptive changes sound too critical to me. Thanks, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]