Talk:History of Saint Pierre and Miquelon

miquelon st. pierre links
Here are some of the sources I use when trying to dig into this topic

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/exploration/restoration_france.html http://grandcolombier.com/english/history.html http://www.st-pierre-et-miquelon.com/english/histoire.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Island http://www.historyguy.com/anglo_french.html http://flagspot.net/flags/pm.html

Some of them are contradictory or confusing--Filll 22:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, I wrote two of those documents, the grandcolombier (2) was comissioned for a book that was never published, so I just posted it plain text.
 * The third in your list is just a very simple document for tourists. Let me know if you have any questions, I own the biggest book collection on these islands outsite of SPM. -- --Miquelon 15:19 (EST), 20 October 2006


 * Bon soir Miquelon. I dug up a couple of references for the WWII section, but you seem to know more, or may have more.  It appears that Churchill and Roosevelt were absolutely indignant about the the Free French invasion of the islands, both for their own reasons.  Roosevelt stood on the Monroe Doctrine principle which establishes US foreign policy in the Americas for the last 200 years.  Churchill just didn't like de Gaulle and wanted to make sure that the French did not influence Quebecois nationalists.  Apparently, the islands were big news in both Canada and the US for several weeks, because it was one of the first "wins" for the allies.  Orangemarlin 23:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Vichy France
I am particularly confused by the part of the article that says the US was nervous about the islands remaining under the Vichy government because it could be used to spy on the US, that the US recognized the Free French as the official French government in exhile and yet, in the very next paragraph, says that the US was upset by the Free French take over of the islands and threatened to use force to restore them to the Vichy. I added "citation needed." In fact, the entire article needs cites. (Sonlee 09:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC))

I am glad you noticed that. The literature seems to be a bit confused and we need to straighten that out.--Filll 14:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I cleaned up the section on WWII, using some very good references on the relationships between Churchill, Roosevelt, and deGaulle, specifically during the "invasion" of the islands. The article needs a lot more cites.  There is a French website that has a lot of details about the islands, but unless you're a Francophone, it's not going to help.  Orangemarlin 23:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed a couple "fact" tags
I just did a bunch of edits to correct spelling. I also removed two "fact" tags because they weren't formatted properly so they showed up in the article itself as {fact}. I didn't know what they were supposed to point to, so I just deleted them. thx1138 06:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

demotion
We need to state why SPM was demoted from department to territory. I only have vague recollections from news reports at the time that it was under external pressure related to the expansion of NAFTA or the EU. kwami (talk) 00:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

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