Talk:Hood Canal

The Floating Bridge, etc.
I added a link, http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/E9F9AD95-7974-4A89-855E-DE815003E051/0/HCBMay2005.pdf, to a PDF on the WSDOT site. This PDF contains information on the bridge retrofit, and probably will cease to exist sometime after the retrofit is completed. It would be nice to find another page (from WSDOT or otherwise) with the same information that might have a more permanent nature. I would also like confirmation on the claim by WSDOT that this is the only floating saltwater span in the world.

Mattjm 19:02, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Reference
I used these templates Citation templates to begin cleaning up this page. Jeepday 16:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Falsely named
Does anyone know why Hood Canal is called a canal? It was originally called Hood Channel. A canal, by definition, is a man-made body of water, so I don't see a reason why it is called that.

I'll continue to research on it and I may add a section in about it later if I find some information. Blahmaster 22:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * A book I have on Washington place names provides a partial answer, so I added the info and reference. Apparently the "canal" version comes from Vancouver, although I'm not sure why Vancouver used the word "canal". Maybe it was a typo.. Pfly 04:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Part of Puget Sound
Most definitions of Puget Sound I've seen include Hood Canal, saying something like "an arm of Puget Sound", or, less clearly, "an arm off Puget Sound". Among hydrologists and the like, Hood Canal is often considered a "basin" of Puget Sound. This paper is the one I have on hand which describes Puget Sound as having four basins, Hood Canal, Whidbey Basin, South Sound, and the Main Basin:
 * Features Of Puget Sound Region: Oceanography And Physical Processes, Chapter 3 of the State of the Nearshore Report, King County Department of Natural Resources, Seattle, Washington, 2001.

I don't feel strongly about whether the Puget Sound category is used or not -- just a reaction to the edit summary of User:Travisl, "Hood Canal, like the Strait of Juan de Fuca, is connected to Puget Sound, but is not part of Puget Sound". I'd bet that it is a "yes and no" kind of thing -- to some people Hood Canal is part of Puget Sound, to others it is not. Pfly (talk) 18:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Map needed
Can we please have a map that shows the locaion of this place within the state of Washington? Badagnani (talk) 07:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Canal vs. Channel
It is curious that Vancouver was British, and presumably would have known the difference. However, in some languages, including Italian, the word for "canal" or "channel" can be one and the same, or else very similar to one another. The fact that they are identical in Italian led to great confusion about Mars in the second half of the 1800. The astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli wrote the Italian word, intending from its context for it to mean "channel", but nevertheless, it was translated into English for years as "canal". This was part of the root of the entire notion of canals on Mars that had been built by intelligent Martians. Yes, another intelligent civilization in our own Solar System. After decades and decades of other astronomers, including Percival Lowell (1855 - 1916) describing canals on Mars, drawing maps of networks of canals there, etc., it was found that what Schiaparelli, Lowell, and dozens more astromers had seen were merely optical illusions.98.81.2.95 (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Vancouver was following earlier explorations by the Spanish, who had discovered the mouth of Puget Sound a year or two before Vancouver entered and mapped it. He had a number of Spanish maps and charts with him and shortly after exploring Hood Canal and Puget Sound worked with the Spanish explorers as a team, surveying the Strait of Georgia. He usually kept Spanish place names if he knew about them (such as San Juan Island, Haro Strait, etc). The Spanish used the word canal for what the English called channel. Given Vancouver's constant work with Spanish place names at the time its not surprising he might use both terms. Another example of Vancouver naming an inlet canal is Portland Canal. Who knows why he mapped Hood Canal as canal but wrote about it as channel. I would bet it was due to Spanish influence. Pfly (talk) 21:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

A few issues and edits
I just did a bit of copyediting and couldn't explain it all in the edit summary box, and have a few more questions, so I'm posting here. The page referred to Hood Canal with a mixed usage of "Hood Canal" and "the Hood Canal". I think "the Hood Canal" is not very common, so I took out the "the"s. I also took out something saying all fjords are long and narrow. This might be true in general, but there are some very short fjords, and some are quite wide. Hood Canal is remarkably long and narrow. I almost took out the bit in the first sentence about Hood Canal being a "glacier-made fjord", because, I thought, aren't all fjords made by glaciers? But then, maybe not. Maybe some inlets called fjords are not glacier-made. So I left that bit. The "History" section title had been changed to "History of the Hood Canal". The normal section title style on Wikipedia is to just say "History", I believe. This page is title Hood Canal, so the History section is understood to be about Hood Canal. I fixed some references and did some various copyediting.

A couple points I'm not sure about:
 * Along its entire length, Hood Canal separates the Kitsap Peninsula from the Olympic Peninsula. Is this really the case? Does the Olympic Peninsula extended south to below the southernmost part of Hood Canal, where it bends eastward? Is that isthmus between southeasternmost Hood Canal and Case Inlet on Puget Sound really part of the Olympic Peninsula? I wouldn't have thought so, but perhaps it is. Then again, is the southern boundary of the Olympic Peninsula well-defined?
 * I figured this one out easily enough. A number of sources say the Olympic Peninsula is generally regarded as extending south to the Chehalis River (for example, page 1 of Olympic: A Visitor's Companion, says just that).


 * Geologically, Hood Canal is best described as a fjord that was carved out during the Ice Ages. First, does this belong in the History section? Second, wasn't it already said, earlier in the article, that Hood Canal is a glacier-made fjord? Third, Ice Age is a rather broad term, it would be more useful to say which ice age. Finally, the statement is followed by a footnote reference to Welcome to the Hood Canal Dissolved Oxygen Program, which does not say anything about Hood Canal being a fjord or carved out during an Ice Age. Something is amiss here. I browsed that website's other pages and the only thing I could find about Hood Canal being a fjord is this rather vague statement: "Hood Canal is not really a canal which connects one place with another. It is more correctly described as a long, narrow, deep, fjord-like body of water." (from What is Hood Canal?).
 * Found something about this; will see if I can improve the text a little. Pfly (talk) 08:37, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll look around for other sources to clarify these questions. Pfly (talk) 08:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

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