Talk:House of Ardenne–Verdun

Verdun vs. Bouillon
On what sources is the rename/move of the article based on? I thought it was common practice to at least have a discussion before moving an article... Havard 21:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

the name and focus of this article needs adaptation
This article seems to be about the Verdun branch of the Ardenne dynasty. Unfortunately it seems Wikipedia has no other article for the bigger family, or for the other main branch, (Luxembourg, that family's name being used to discuss something else) and this article does not really explain that there are other branches.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC) I posted also at House of Luxembourg. Anywhere else? I propose. Please note any concerns or tweaks needed to this plan. Otherwise I think it is clear enough to go ahead?
 * We move/rename House of Luxembourg to more specific Limbourg-Luxembourg Dynasty, like other Holy Romen Empire dynasties. Spelling is based on local modern spelling preferences and avoiding confusions between different Limburg/Limbourgs. But potentially it could be "Limburg".
 * We create House of Ardenne-Luxembourg as a sibling article to Ardennes-Verdun dynasty covering the other main branches of the House of Ardennes. The descendants of Count Sigefried etc.
 * We move/rename Ardennes-Verdun dynasty to House of Ardenne-Verdun to be consistent. (Scholars tend not to use the "s" for some reason.)
 * We create either a stub/dab page for people searching for House of Ardennes. For now the main articles will be the two main branches but this article can cover the first generations and anyone not in the main branches.
 * We create/rename a dab page (or dab pages) for people searching for House of Luxembourg, House of Luxemburg etc, given the options of the Limbourg-descended dynasty or the older Ardenne-Luxembourg family who they descend from.
 * Citation: Parisse, ‘Généalogie de la Maison d'Ardenne’, La maison d'Ardenne Xe-XIe siècles. Actes des Journées Lotharingiennes, 24 - 26 oct. 1980, Centre Univ., Luxembourg, (1981) 9-41--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)