Talk:House of Zhu

Expenditures and Size of the House of Zhu during the Ming dynasty
https://books.google.com/books?id=tVhvh6ibLJcC&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false

The ming dynasty operated a feudal system of autonomous principalities running parallel to the provincial adminstration, like many other imperial era dynasties.

http://books.google.com/books?id=i6pIMVGPkuUC&pg=PR22#v=onepage&q&f=false

The size of the Zhu family reached to over 80,000, and they took up a vast amount of resources and even then some of them were driven into poverty.

http://books.google.com/books?id=sEvQbGpqQG0C&pg=PA273#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=sEvQbGpqQG0C&pg=PA274#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=8nXLwSG2O8AC&pg=PA10#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=8nXLwSG2O8AC&pg=PA11&dq=lower+ranking+kinsmen+impoverished+crushing+burden+rural+consumed&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5E16VMqlD_aOsQTt-4AY&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lower%20ranking%20kinsmen%20impoverished%20crushing%20burden%20rural%20consumed&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=SJAOBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT51&lpg=PT51#v=onepage&q&f=false

Another estimate is 100,000, and each Princely member of the family had thousands of their own retainers. After eight generations they loose their princely title.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ka6jNJcX_ygC&pg=PA18#v=onepage&q&f=false

Imperial princes who were not heirs to the throne were went away from the capital

http://books.google.com/books?id=bANasl7nayUC&pg=PA122#v=onepage&q&f=false

Some princely fiefs had thousands of guards.

http://books.google.com/books?id=i6pIMVGPkuUC&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q&f=false

Regulations concerning the graves of imperial princes during the Ming.

http://books.google.com/books?id=C9paA51D7kYC&pg=PA451#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=C9paA51D7kYC&pg=PA452#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=C9paA51D7kYC&pg=PA453#v=onepage&q&f=false

A tripod system of administration was used in the provinces. In Yunnan, the Mu family had more power than the prince. Prince Min was assigned to Yunnan.

http://www.gutenberg-e.org/yang/chapter4.html

The Su principality (Zhu Ying, Prince Zhuang of Su)

http://books.google.com/books?id=i6pIMVGPkuUC&pg=PA155#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=i6pIMVGPkuUC&pg=PA156#v=onepage&q&f=false

Zhu Gang, Prince Gong of Jin

http://books.google.com/books?id=J1tZBMy52oYC&pg=PA132#v=onepage&q&f=false

Prince Zhu Youdun

http://books.google.com/books?id=YyU_dv57xYQC&pg=PR23#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ming princes were called fanwang

http://books.google.com/books?id=MC6sAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA158#v=onepage&q&f=false

Overdue Emoluments

http://books.google.com/books?id=PnPQ25Oh2yUC&pg=PA270&dq=master+Zhang+ming+marriage&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TkgrVOPONZCWyASN-oHQBQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=master%20Zhang%20ming%20marriage&f=false

08:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Marriage ties
Marriage ties with the Celestial Masters

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Marquis of extended grace
Marquis of Extended Grace

The Qing dynasty The Qing court emphasized that they were not conquerors but had entered China to "help" overthrow the rebel Li Zhi Cheng. They buried Emperor Chong Zhen and in 1725, appointed a member of the Ming royal family as the "Marquis of Extended Grace", 延恩侯, whose duty was to perform rituals for his imperial ancestors, the former Ming Emperors. Despite acts of goodwill, the Qing court was brutal in suppressing any challenge to their rule.

http://www.chinatownology.com/Ming_dynasty_remembered.html

http://baike.baidu.com/view/2998428.htm

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"On the card was written: "Chu Yu/hsun, descendant of the Imperial Ming House, Marquis of Extended Grace, bearing the additional personal name of Ping/nan and residing in Yang/kuan Road, Little Street, North of the Tung/chih Gate"."

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Title	The Great within Author	Maurice Collis Publisher	Faber and Faber, 1956 Original from	the University of Virginia Digitized	Feb 21, 2011 Length	349 pages

Page 46

"There, Reginald Johnston introduced Puyi to the Bengali poet Rabindranath Tagore and the last descendant of the Qing imperial family, the Marquis of Extended Grace, who graciously acknowledged Ming supremacy whilst continuing to carry ..."

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Title	The Forbidden City A place in history Author	Frances Wood Edition	illustrated Publisher	British Museum Press, 2005 Original from	Indiana University Digitized	Nov 4, 2008 ISBN 0714127892, 9780714127897 Length	78 pages

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"The last Imperial Dynasty, even though they were Manchus, were sufficiently Siniciscd to keep up the custom. In 1924 a descendant of the preceding Ming Dynasty, adorned with the rank of a Marquis (the Marquis of Extended Grace) was ..."

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Title	Ancient Chinese bronzes of the Shang and Chou dynasties: an illustrated catalogue of the van Heusden collection, with a historical introduction Ancient Chinese Bronzes of the Shang and Chou Dynasties: An Illustrated Catalogue of the Van Heusden Collection, with a Historical Introduction by Willem Van Heusden, Willem van Heusden Author	Willem van Heusden Publisher	Privately published, 1952 Length	193 pages

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"His teachings on the art of government, contained in the Ming Bao Shun B£ ^ Jig were recognized as a model and an order was ... 81, who was given a stipend and the hereditary title of Marquis Qiou ) of the Extended Grace (Yan'en J<£ ,® )."

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Title	Central Asiatic Journal, Volume 46 Publisher	O. Harrassowitz, 2002 Original from	Indiana University Digitized	Jun 18, 2010

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延恩侯

http://books.google.com/books?id=5iN5J9G76h0C&pg=PA72&dq=Zhu+Zhida&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mfXpUu2EEYabygGz9ICYBA&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Zhu%20Zhida&f=false

http://games.sina.com.cn/z/dq/2004-03-29/120419.shtml

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0813/16/3854622_140118552.shtml http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0219/20/1630322_94397843.shtml

http://www.guoxuecc.com/gxys/zxjl/fgsj/200809/3978_13.html

http://www.jsnovel.com/HTML/2294/745183.htm

http://ido.3mt.com.cn/Article/200903/show1335175c26p1.html

http://www.yidian.org/articlelist.php?tid=17481&starttime=0&endtime=0

http://zdy010.bokee.com/1844894.html

"再到满雍正二年（公元1724年），满清世宗胤（礻+真）正式访查出明宗室后裔朱之琏，封为一等侯，入正白旗令世袭，以奉明孝陵的春秋祀事（这样，明皇族后裔又有一支加入满族）. 至此，明宗室后裔才结束逃亡生活，恢复了普通平民的身份."

http://www.qulishi.com/news/201307/4287_3.html

http://www.jianwendi.com/list.asp?ID=253

http://lezhongguojiyulecheng.com/taiziyulecheng/20140127/572.html

"朱之琏 明太祖庶十三子代简王朱桂之后,崇祯时其祖代王朱彝为洪承畴监军于松山,洪承畴军败,朱彝与其侄朱文元被俘,降清.隶镶白旗下,雍正时,访明裔,得于正定知府任上.锡一等延恩侯,抬入上三旗之一的正白旗 一等延恩侯"

http://tc.wangchao.net.cn/baike/detail_1898051.html http://www.fescomail.net/detail/31978669.html

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http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/topic/18285-zhu-cihuan-any-more-info/

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=817997029

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 * Strong disagree. This article details the ruling family, whereas "Ming dynasty" covers the empire. These are different topics. Applodion (talk) 20:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Totally redundant article, only some copy-and-paste work needed for the FA Ming dynasty. SBD091 (talk) 01:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * How do you even come to this conclusion? Did you read the article at all? Applodion (talk) 10:54, 12 August 2023 (UTC)