Talk:Howard County Department of Planning and Zoning

The Times
References to "The Times" need some expansion using other fields in Template:Cite news to indicate what newspaper this actually is. -- Pemilligan (talk) 23:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Lengthy list of non-notables
In the article lead, there appears this lengthy list of former commissioners:

"Planning and Zoning Directors and Commissioners:

James MacGill - 1948 Zoning Commissioner. Established first set of zoning ordinances.[4][5] James MacGill - 1951 first Planning Commissioner.[6] Norman E. Moxley, Chairman; James Hemphill, Roby H. Mullinix, E. Walter Scott, P. Stanley Hannan - Planning Commission[7] John Louis Coates - Building Engineer.[8] David J. Custer - (1954-), later president of Howard County Homebuilders.[9] Eugene Wheeler (1958- ) First planning director Thomas G Harris Jr. Director of Planning (1959-1967)[10][11][12] Student of University of Pennsylvania professor and Rouse chief developer Bill Finley.[13] Henri J Raphael Director of Zoning (1963- )[14] Wilmer M Sanner Planning Commission Chairman (1962-1967) Sanner sold the majority of his 73-acre Simpsonville farm to Howard Research and Development prior to the public announcement of the Columbia project.[15] Dorris Stromberg Thompson (1962-1966) Deputy Planning director. Former county commissioner candidate, daughter of Howard County Times Newspaper owner Paul Griffith Stromberg, niece of Commissioner Norman E. Moxley.[16] AE Meyers - Zoning Commissioner (1966)[17] Thomas G Harris Jr.- Planning director, Director of Planning and Zoning (1966-1987)[18] J. Hugh Nichols Member of the Planning Commission (1968-1968) Nichols was later County Executive, and foreign energy consultant.[19] Uri Avin - 1987 - 1991. Implemented historic planning positions.[20][21][22] Joseph W. Rutter Jr. DPZ 1966-2002. Director 1991-2002. Left in 2002 to become Director of Planning in Anne Arundel County, now operates Land Design and Development Inc., a Howard County land development firm with developer Donald L. Reuwer.[23][24] Marsha McLaughlin 2002–present. Former deputy director under Joseph Rutter.[25]"

1. At best, this list should appear under "History" and not as part of the lead. 2. There is only one notable in the list. Most are WP:NN 3. When I tried to "hide" it with a template, an editor reverted it because "hide" is not supposed to be used in the article text. This is actually true. But it has been accepted in the past as a easy way of removing lengthy material of no interest to anyone. 4. It probably ought to be removed completely. 5. Some of the material is WP:PEACOCK for the Director, and has little or nothing to do with the article itself. It is non-WP:TOPIC. 6. Having said that, the current directors can be listed below (but hardly in the lead).

I propose to delete all but the current ones. Move them below. Move the notable to history. Student7 (talk) 23:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)