Talk:Hurricane Agnes

Todo
Sources! Hurricanehink 01:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Because there's no sources, I've lowered this to start class. --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * State College, PA report on Agnes - This should be used. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Here is some stuff for the New York section if anyone wants to do it. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/nerfc/historical/jun1972.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.15.47 (talk) 17:42, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Formed over land?
From the track map, it looks as though Agnes formed over the Yucatan. Is this the case? I think there was an instance of this happenning(sp?)at another point in time.WotGoPlunk 19:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup it did. So did Bill in 2003. -- §  Hurricane  E  RIC  §Damages archive 01:01, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hurricane Alma (1966) formed over Central America. There is ample precedent.  Thegreatdr 16:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Railroads
I removed this from the article. &mdash; jdorje (talk) 04:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The following lines were damaged and not rebuilt by the time Conrail began operations in 1976: *Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally a branch of the South Fork Railroad) between Ruthford and Lloydell, Pennsylvania, transferred to Conrail due to coal reserves
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the York and Maryland Line Rail Road and Baltimore and Susquehanna Railroad) from Hyde, Pennsylvania to Cockeysville, Maryland, resulted in the total cutoff of the short Stewartstown Railroad
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Lancaster and Reading Narrow Gauge Railroad) between Lancaster and Quarryville, Pennsylvania
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Colebrook Valley Railroad) between Conewago and Cornwall, Pennsylvania
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Lykens Valley Railroad and Canal Company) between Millersburg and Elizabethville, Pennsylvania
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Frederick and Pennsylvania Rail Road) between Fountain Rock and Frederick, Maryland
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Mifflin and Centre County Railroad) between Reedsville and Milroy, Pennsylvania
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Lewisburg and Tyrone Railroad) between Lemont and Coburn, Pennsylvania
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Bedford and Bridgeport Railroad) from Bedford, Pennsylvania to the Maryland state line towards Cumberland
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Williamsport and Elmira Rail-Road) from Southport, New York to Hepburnville, Pennsylvania
 * Penn Central Transportation (NYC; originally the Penn Yan and New York Railroad) between Penn Yan and Dresden, New York
 * Penn Central Transportation (PRR; originally the Buffalo, New York and Philadelphia Railroad) between Olean and Allegany, New York; the New York State Department of Transportation had been negotiating to buy it for a new alignment of Route 17, but a different alignment was later used
 * Reading Company (originally the Gettysburg and Harrisburg Railroad) between Carlisle Junction and Gettysburg Junction, Pennsylvania
 * Reading Company (originally the Middletown and Hummelstown Railroad) between Hummelstown and Middletown, Pennsylvania
 * Reading Company (originally the Reading and Columbia Railroad) at Columbia, Pennsylvania
 * Lehigh Valley Railroad (originally the Barclay Railroad and Coal Company and Sullivan and Erie Coal and Railroad Company) from Towanda Junction to Dushore, Pennsylvania
 * Erie Lackawanna Railway (Erie; originally the Tioga Navigation Company) from Lawrencville to Blossburg, Pennsylvania
 * Erie Lackawanna Railway (DL&W; originally the Hanover and Newport Railroad) from Avondale to Loomis, Pennsylvania

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The numbers don't add up!
The deaths listed for total and specific places in the text, don't match with the table data listed on the right, e.g.: Cuba: (text) 7, (table) 9... ??? Andy N.

The money doesn't add up either: "The storm was responsible for $2.1 billion in damage (1972 US dollars) in the United States, the vast majority of which came from the flooding.[7] Of this, over $2 billion was in Pennsylvania, and $700 million in New York.[8]" That's at least $2.7billion. Also the intro paragraph says it caused $1.7 billion in damage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.186.80.1 (talk) 19:34, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Camp was YMCA, not Boy Scouts
Camp Shikellimy was a YMCA camp, not a Boy Scout camp as stated in the article. There were nearly 100 campers and about 20 staff evacuated due to the camp's location just below DeHart Dam. The Clark's Valley Reservoir was located less than a mile upstream from the camp. Flooding had cut roads leading into and out of the camp, which would have been destroyed had the reservoir's rising waters topped the dam and rushed into the narrow valley below. This, ultimately, didn't happen.

The camp property was not in Lykens as stated. It was located in Middle Paxton Township between Lykens and Dauphin, Pa.

Attribution? I was a senior staff member at the camp who was on one of those helicopters. The campers were flown to the Harrisburg National Guard Amory. The flight lasted approximately 30 minutes.

This is my first Wiki edit. Help formatting is appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bocanut69 (talk • contribs) 10:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

There was so much more to Agnes, which is now included
Even though NHC said at the time a baroclinic low absorbed Agnes, surface maps do not show another surface feature, frontal or otherwise. This appears to be one of those times where a TC stacks with an upper low aloft and somehow gets "absorbed" by it, which by this meaning does not mean that the surface low has died. Mariners Weather Log has a long passage concerning Agnes' former surface low, which was added to the article. For what it is worth, NCDC's extratropical cyclone database (the 1965 to 1974 portion I have access to) also follows the Agnes surface low through the end of June, well past where NHC's track ends. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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