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Best selling album of 21st century is incorrect.
The album was released in Oct. of 2000. This would mean that the album was not released in the 21st century. If the case is made that it is an album of the 21st century, then it is not the highest selling. That title would fall to the Beetles "1" album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_%28The_Beatles_album%29). The Beetles album was released in 2000, as well. 98.249.160.216 (talk) 05:13, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This person is correct on both counts. ~ UBeR (talk) 06:40, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've also updated the total unit sales to 24 million instead of 25 million, per the source provided (there was none previously, except on the list of best-selling albums page). ~ UBeR (talk) 07:16, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * According to this source it is the best selling debut album of the 21st century. ~ UBeR (talk) 07:49, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

I suggest we go for more general language as opposed to the specific language that states it is in fact the "second best-selling album of the 21st century." The reason is because both of these albums were released in late 2000, which is still the 20th century. To measure sales of the 21st century, we have to take total sales and subtract from that the sales from their release dates in 2000 to December 31, 2000. Since there does not seem to be any source that specifically does this, I don't think it would be appropriate for us to make these specific statements without a valid third-party source. (For example, this source seems to imply that a majority of 1's sales occurred in 2000.) I would therefore suggest something to this effect: "Hybrid Theory has sold 24 million copies worldwide, which makes it one of the best-selling albums of the 21st century." ~ UBeR (talk) 08:35, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Best selling debut album has a source, the second best selling one does not even mention Hybrid Theory...--Something12356789101 (talk) 03:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm late to the discussion but anyway, this is all a moot point. Come Away With Me, the 2002 debut album of Norah Jones, has (according to the sources on that article) sold approximately 26 million copies, 2 million more than Hybrid Theory. So, that album is actually the best-selling debut of the 21st century to this point. 72.2.81.193 (talk) 02:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm even later, LOL, but I was going to make the same general point...it is a totally nothingburger of a statistic because surely there will be something that will sell more before the end of the 21st century. Cheers! FiggazWithAttitude (talk) 19:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

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Sexual assault-related lyrics?
Did any of the songs in Hybrid Theory have any lyrics relating to sexual assault, something that Chester Bennington went through in adolescence (see the early life section of Bennington's page)? If so, is it necessary to make this following edit?

"Recorded at NRG Recordings in North Hollywood, California, and produced by Don Gilmore, the album's lyrical themes deal with problems lead vocalist Chester Bennington experienced during his adolescence, including drug abuse, sexual assault, and the constant fighting and divorce of his parents."

I kindly await your response. User:Danielcool123 - 18:23, 13 January 2019 (GMT)


 * Regarding "Did any of the songs in Hybrid Theory have any lyrics relating to sexual assault..." You obviously have access to a computer and the internet. Google the lyrics, read them, and decide for yourself. Nothing like a little independent research. I say, if you can back it up then edit to your heart's content! Cheers! FiggazWithAttitude (talk) 19:52, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Singles release dates
I don't think we should have dates or years if we can not confirm when the singles are released. It goes against WP:OR and WP:RS. As this is a good article, it should have sourced material. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:42, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory 2020 Charts
Linkin Park’s ‘Hybrid Theory’ Rocks Album Sales Chart, John Lennon Debuts in Top 10. (Linkin Park Hybrid Theory debuts at No. 3 on the billboard 200 for 2020).

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9468985/linkin-park-hybrid-theory-album-sales-chart-john-lennon/

Official Album Charts UK Top 100 (Linkin Park Hybrid Theory debuts at No. 25 for 2020).

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/20201016/7502/

Can someone edit the 2020 section on the bottom of the Hybrid Theory album page with these two charts please?

In The End Single Release Date
I would like to get some solidarity on this. The source for August 23, 2001 is confusing as it doesn't say anything about the release date of the single. It only says it entered the charts on December 2 of the same year as they use DD/MM. Though, this can't be the case if the supposed commercial release for the single was August 23. Though, the Offical Charts in the UK has "In The End" first charting on October 20th 2001 https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/9854/linkin-park/ (Click the plus button next to In The End). This is completely different to when it first charted in Australia. This would also prove that In The End first charted in the US in late October to be correct. Would this not suggest that the single was indeed released in October 2001 instead of 2000?--GeorgeKnight201101 (talk) 10:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * This was partially discussed here. Billboard merely said "current single" in October 2001; it was released as single in Australia on August 23, 2001 (code bar 9362424122) (it's there, at "TRACKS"). The key problem is that I suspect that Loudwire copied our article, which at the time was citing the RIAA link. (CC)  Tb hotch ™ 19:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I suspected the same thing with the Loudwire article copying the wikipedia article itself. It didn't seem credible enough for a random publisher to assume the current release date by looking at what was being fed to people on the article for "In The End". For that reason, I would suggest that the Loudwire reference to be potentially removed. Granted, the RIAA is a lot more credible. Though, for me it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't already released in physical formats or had a music video published making airwaves on MTV or what not. That's the only thing that confuses me. The only other thing I suggest is directly asking Mike Shinoda on one of his Twitch streams to confirm what the actual release date was. Then get some sort of reference for that to link to the article directly.--GeorgeKnight201101 (talk) 11:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm late to the party, but I concur with this finding of Loudwire being mistaken and us having gotten it wrong at the time. In regard to the RIAA, sometimes they use the single's parent album release date for single releases that are unknown. I like the creative steps toward solutions, George! In the meantime, do you think it's fair to use the Australian dates?  danny music editor  oops 07:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)