Talk:Ice skate

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I added the Forbes credit, based on a book listing inventions from the Maritimes (the name of which I can't find...). Trekphiler 04:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Speed Skate sharpening
"Speed skates, however, have a completely flat bottom. There is no hollow, only a squared off bottom with 2 edges. This improves glide time by not cutting into the ice." - I believe this is incorrect as most speed skates do infact have a slight groove. I haven't found a reference for this though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobdoficus (talk • contribs) 08:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC).

Yes, speed skates and touring skates are sharpened with a flat cross section. Typically, the blades are sharpened with a flat whetstone. Here is one link : http://www.isn.net/speedskating/sharpen.html Ddermott 21:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Types of skate
We could do with a little more detail in the differences between the types of skates. And there's an image of "recreational skates", but the text doesn't even mention such things, let alone describe the characteristics that set it apart from the other kinds.

And it's been a long time since I last went skating, but none of them look like what I remember of the house skates at the rinks I've been to.... -- Smjg 16:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Confusing redirects
Some of the REDIRECTS to Ice_skate should be changed. There are:
 * Ice_skate The actual article.
 * Ice_skates Plural, second word not capitalized. This is a REDIRECT to the activity Ice_skating rather than the object Ice_skate which isn't logical.
 * Ice_Skates Plural, second word capitalized. This is a REDIRECT to Ice_skate, which is logical but very few people will capitalize the second word when searching.

I think changing the REDIRECT Ice_skates to point to Ice_skate rather than Ice_skating will work without breaking any internal links. I checked What links here and it seems all of the links refer to the object skate rather than the activity skating. --Ddermott 12:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I changed Ice skates to redirect to Ice skate. Ice Skates we can just leave, because redirects are cheap. :) Thanks for figuring this out. --Fang Aili talk 17:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Inaccurate Description of Toe Pick Use
The article states:

The toe pick has a variety of uses, but is most commonly used for certain jumps in figure skating, such as the axel and toe loop jumps.

The problem here is that the "Axel" does not use the toe pick. The jumps that do are the flip, Lutz, toe-loop (as mentioned), and the toe-wally.

Matt 69.239.242.201 05:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

History of hockey skates

 * "[This will] really take the sport of hockey to another level," [ Wayne Gretzky ] said in a video statement shown during a press conference in Toronto on Tuesday. "Not since getting rid of the old blades that we wore in the '70s that Bobby Orr and Lanny McDonald wore — this is the first time we're going to see a significant change in the blade in probably 30 years." http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/10/16/thermablade-nhl.html

What is the change 30 years ago that Gretzky refers to? Is it the concave edge of the blade? Somegeek 20:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Tube skates and bob skates
Tube skates and bob skates should be mentioned. Badagnani (talk) 02:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

skating on water
you actually are skating on water because your weight is put into the two thin blades and creates a film of water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.201.146 (talk) 14:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Hockey skate blade
The article says "All hockey skates (excepting goaltender's skates) are designed such that they will not cause injury to an opponent, and are fitted with safety blades". This is absolutely false. Several players have been injured by the blade of a teammate's or opponent's skate. It just recently happened in the NHL to the Panthers' Rich Zudnick, who got his neck seriously cut buy his teammate's skate blade. I'm removing this sentence, unless someone can find a definitive source that says this is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.216.36.105 (talk) 05:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Not entirely false, just missunderstanding what is meant by safey blades. On player skates there is no point at each end of the   runner. The runner comes out flush with the chassis. SO a player can't be stabbed by the skate, they can still be cut by it. That is the reason juniors must wear throat gaurds.

Goalie skate runners come forwards and rearward to before entering the chassis so you could be stabbed by them.

Pretty much any rule book will set out the point governing player skates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.123.128.114 (talk) 03:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR (talk) 05:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Ice skate → Ice skates — I suggest this page be moved to the plural form of the noun so it matches other articles such as roller skates and inline skates Peter Napkin Dance Party (talk) 15:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC) — Peter Napkin Dance Party (talk) 15:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose: Naming conventions says that article names should normally use the singular form. Footwear articles (Shoe, Boot, Sock, Sandal (footwear) etc) are generally named in the singular, so it appears that it is Roller skates and Inline skates that are out of line with policy. See also Ski, Snowshoe, and Swimfin. --DAJF (talk) 05:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. People with one leg can wear a shoe. People with one leg can not skate. Snowshoe should probably be renamed as well. The rest can be done on one foot (other than skating, whether it be on ice, with roller skates or inline skates). 199.125.109.124 (talk) 05:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose As mentioned, singular forms should be used. -Djsasso (talk) 18:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, this is singular - one pair of ice skates. An ice skate is one half of a pair of skates. You can make a shoe for a person with one leg, and they can sit in a wheelchair or walk with crutches. There would be no reason to ever have one skate. There is nothing to push against. 199.125.109.126 (talk) 01:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That doesn't matter, you can have a singular ice skate. Whether or not you would use a single ice skate is irrelevant. Nevermind the fact there are disabled skaters. -Djsasso (talk) 04:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

regarding the move requested above
so... the move from Ice Skate --> Ice Skates was opposed, but similar move requests from Roller Skates --> Roller Skate and Inline Skates --> Inline Skate  were ALSO opposed.

This leaves us in an awkward position where regardless of what naming convention we choose, something is wrong. Clearly the same naming convention should apply to all three of these articles. and I'm not too invested in which way that goes, although see Ski, Shoe, Sock, Boot, Glove, Crutch. Wearable pairs tend to be named on wikipedia as singular, unless they are un-separatable, (see handcuffs, Trousers, Sunglasses, Shorts). I'll point out that it is POSSIBLE for a disabled skater to skate with only one skate, but quite difficult and they often use a prosthetic leg with a second skate, therefore considering 'skates' as only being of interest in the plural is reasonable. But we need to pick one. InsertCleverPhraseHere InsertTalkHere 11:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Design section removal.
The 'design' section of this article is almost at entirely unsourced and seems rather rambling and out of place. I propose merging sourced and other important information, such as hollow vs flat ground slates, into the 'types of skates' section and deleting the design section altogether. InsertCleverPhraseHere InsertTalkHere 13:45, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

✅ InsertCleverPhraseHere InsertTalkHere 04:28, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

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Ice hockey skates
The section for ice hockey skates spends most of its time comparing the skates worn by goaltenders to those worn by other players, while assuming that the reader is familiar with the latter, and the same assumption is also made (to a lesser degree) in the figure skate section. For someone like me that is not the case, it would be much more useful for it to give a description of each type of skate without assuming any pre-knowledge. As I lack that pre-knowledge this is not something I'm able to fix myself. Thryduulf (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)