Talk:Images and Words

Take the Time
Who does the background vocals in Take the Time? The part in the choruses where you can hear "It's time to take the time" in the background, specifically.

Sounds like Labrie to me. --Rp81 20:50, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, nobody is listed in the liner notes as "backing vocals", so I would have to assume as well that it was Labrie. 65.100.179.145 21:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Take the time length
Does anybody know something about a longer "Take the Time" (about 18 minutes)???

''Err, on the Images Tour they would perform a 12-13 minute version of the song, with the intro to The Mirror at the start and a jam at the end of the song. The performance can be found on Images and Words: Live in Tokyo.'' --Mintyhead 05:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a longer 15+ minute verson they played at a concert, but its only a bootleg recording and is very bad quality —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.156.240 (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Biasness
This article is very seem bias and is more of a bio than fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liquidblue8388 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Extra pages?
Do we really needs the extra pages for "Take the Time" and "Under a Glass Moon" when all it says is the track number and appearances? Seems like a bit of waste without any kind of trivia or song info.
 * Leave 'em there. I will fill out a little information on the lyric themes. InnocuousFox 15:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Learning to Live - sep page please
Would someone who knows how better than me put together a new page for "Learning to Live". I need to put in some info about the song and the theme but don't want to butcher the standard formatting. Thx. InnocuousFox 15:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Instrumental Info
The article states that this album was the first until Octavarium that did not include an Instrumental song. This is false. Six Degrees of Inner Trubulence does not have an instrumental song either. Should be fixed.06:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Technically it's the first until Octavarium that doesn't have an instrumental track - because Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is track broken, Overture could be considered a separate instrumental song. It's somewhat unclear whether Six Degrees is meant to be 8 songs forming a suite or just one massive song, particularly given that it was released on Score as a single 40-min track. I'm tempted to say the latter, as it would mean Six Degrees (album) has six songs on it, which seems appropriate. Raelthelamb 08:10, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this or whatnot, or even if this is the correct way of going about it, but here goes. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence does not have an instrumental track. It has an instrumental section. Yes on the album it is listed as a track, however if one was to take it as it is on the album then they would be disagreeing with Octavarium's main concept; Everything ends where it begins. This can be seen starting with Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, and ending with Black Clouds & Silver Linings. On Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence "Overture" is part of the end track, which is track 6. So Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence has 6 tracks. Train of Thought has 7 tracks. No disputes there. Octavarium, 8. Seeing the pattern? Now, you'll be quick to point out that Systematic Chaos has 8 tracks also, however, track 1 and 8 are two parts of a single track, "In the Presence of Enemies", and I quote "The song was split into two parts for the album, due to its being a good open and close to the album. According to Portnoy, the band felt it was too long to open the album, but did not want to close the album with a long song, as they had with the twenty-four-minute title track of their last album.[18] The song is normally played in its entirety in live shows.[19]" taken from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systematic_Chaos". So we can say Systematic Chaos has 7 tracks. And the final piece of the puzzle, Black Clouds & Silver Linings, with 6 tracks. This completes The concept of Octavarium. I hope this settles it. Thank you. Octane13b (talk) 09:06, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Magnum Opus
Rather than finding a citation for that statement (which seems extremely difficult - wouldn't it have to be a huge poll of DT fans?), I'm for removing it alltogether. Largely because from my experience the majority of fans would say Scenes from a Memory, and also because DT are one of those bands where every album is somebody's favourite. Raelthelamb 08:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree 100% Docta247 08:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. Very subjective. Kill it. InnocuousFox 15:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Any chance we can also kill the "considered a seminal release" statement? I *love* I&W, but that kind of unsourced and POV statement sticks in my throat :-\ Docta247 16:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Producer
Is David Prater, the producer of this album, the same person as the David Prater the article links to?
 * obviously not, as that prater died some 4 years before the album was released.  I'll just remove the link.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.46.30 (talk) 02:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 19:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC) so what were saying is that most stoks go down —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.186.90 (talk) 01:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Tool consider this a landmark release in the genre?
i've never heard tool discuss dream theater in any way, shape of form

can we get a citation for that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theradu123 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge with Another Day (Dream Theater song)
"Another Day" is not an individually notable single. As such, Another Day (Dream Theater song) should be merged into this article. Neelix (talk) 02:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Images and Words: Platinum in Japan?
One of the first things leadsinger James LaBrie said under the concert in Japan, just right before they played "Caught in a Web", is: "We have a new album out called Awake, and thanks to you peaople, who made us platinum. Thank you very much, Japan!" link Chrislemur (talk) 20:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Trivia?
Is the fact that Kansas City Royals played Metropolis before their game really noteworthy? Seems a little too... well, trivial. I think it should be removed, or the trivia section expanded. nlapierre 02:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nlapierre (talk • contribs)

Power Metal
Really?

Credits
I restored the official credits for "Take the Time", as the "correction" was credited to Portnoy's Twitter account. No way in hell is Mike Portnoy a reliable source for anything related to James LaBrie. —Gendralman (talk) 17:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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