Talk:Inchoate offences in English law

Conspiracy to defraud
There is already a more substantial article on conspiracy to defraud. This article only requires a summary. I leave it to others to decide how much is required. I copied part of this article to that article, as it did not appear to be clearly duplicated. There is a paragraph in that article which requires attention as it partially overlaps with that material. James500 (talk) 06:43, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, this article provides a sample - that article, on the other hand, is almost entirely unreferenced and overly technical. Ironholds (talk) 06:52, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

That article is almost entirely referenced, and it deals with a subject that is inherently technical. Its main problem is that the lists of cases need to be expanded into prose explaining those cases, which has not happened yet due to lack of man-time, and it does not include all relevant cases. I wasn't criticising this article by the way. I was just mentioning that there are other articles on this subject. James500 (talk) 17:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I see very few inline citations - what I meant was "it is not explained in language for the layperson". Ironholds (talk) 22:59, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Incitement
Something else is that incitement was abolished by Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 which creates a new inchoate offence of encouraging or assisting crime. This needs to be made clear in the article. James500 (talk) 17:52, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Eep. Any chance of a third-party source? Ironholds (talk) 22:58, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

A digital copy of section 59 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 is available from Legislation.gov.uk at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/section/59. Commencement orders are available at the same place and should be listed in the article on the Act. The "original print PDF" is available at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/resources. My understanding is that the Queen's printer copy (which is what I assume the PDF is supposed to be) is treated as prima facie evidence of what the Act (i.e the vellum copies in the Public Record Office that are the authentic text) says. You could look at Halsbury's Laws, Halsbury's Statutes and Halsbury's Statutory Instruments. I think there is also Current Law Statutes and the Annotated Legislation Service from Butterworths. You could also try Archbold Criminal Pleading, Evidence and Practice, Blackstone's Criminal Practice or Stone's Justices Manual. Those are the books that immediately spring to mind. James500 (talk) 00:59, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Okie-dokes; feel free to change the tense, include a rider and a reference, etc. Ironholds (talk) 02:56, 14 October 2011 (UTC)