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A fact from Incidents of necrophilia appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 June 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that an American serial killer said that he killed women before having sex with them because "I like peace and quiet"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Incidents of Necrophilia.

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"Historical cases" or "necrophiles"[edit]

I think "necrophiles" will suit better, because many of the convicted ones might won't be historical. OccultZone (talk) 11:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe "Notable necrophiles", to be a little more specific. DoctorKubla (talk) 12:46, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Herodotus and Herod[edit]

I noticed this article because of the DYK "hook" being discussed at AN/I. It is highly debatable whether Herodotus actually visited Egypt in person or merely reported what he was told, scholars have been arguing about that for hundreds of years. I have read a lot about Herod and never heard that tosh about sleeping with his wife's corpse, ridiculous. It says it comes from the Babylonian Talmud but cites a book on Shakespeare. Huh? Utter rot. Those first two I know about, I wonder how much of the rest of this article is similar worthless stuff.Smeat75 (talk) 01:52, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at Template:Did you know nominations/Incidents of Necrophilia you will see I raised this point. Belle (talk) 07:49, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are other issues - and not just with the poor standard of English. The 'Christopher Mhlengwa Zikode' entry was sourced to 'Murderpedia' - which contained what appeared to be material copy-pasted from other sources. I have removed the entry. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@AndyTheGrump: No problem, but if murderpedia is link vio, information can be replaced with another phrase and source. What you say? OccultZone (Talk) 08:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have raised the 'Murderpedia' issue at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. As for citing other sources, clearly that is an option - but the entire article still needs checking and copy-editing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@AndyTheGrump: if that reply was directed at me (hard to tell with Wikipedia) I wasn't claiming there weren't other problems, just that there was more discussion at the nomination page on the issue raised by Smeat75. Belle (talk) 08:50, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Smeat75 may have been unaware about the consensus. OccultZone (Talk) 09:01, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Bellemora: sorry if I gave that impression - it wasn't meant like that. I should probably stop posting before rampant insomnia makes me even less coherent... AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@OccultZone: what 'consensus'? AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It can be read on that DYK template. Previously, it stated that Herod committed necrophilia. Later, Bellemora told me to attribute the way it won't sound as obvious information, because some people really don't believe that Herod did that. I had attributed, that it is "According to Babylonian talmud.." Bellemora agreed with the sentence. OccultZone (Talk) 09:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious claim[edit]

In Central Europe, until 200 years ago or pre-modern times, it was notable that if a betrothed girl dies before her marriage day could be celebrated, the spouse could still consummate the ceremony by having sexual relation with the body.

The second source for this claim, The Future of Post-human Sexuality, itself cites Wikipedia and even directly copies the wording from an older revision (found with WikiBlame and visible on Google Books): "in some pre-modern Central European societies when a woman who was engaged to be married died before the wedding." Our own source for that statement, which somebody removed from Necrophilia a while ago, was a very questionable book about black magic from the 1930s. I can't access the other citation, Bizarre Behaviours, so I'm requesting a quote. We need a strong source for such an extraordinary claim. KateWishing (talk) 00:12, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@KateWishing: [1] is the correct URL. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:46, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested merge[edit]

It makes no sense to have a seperate article for this. It should be redirected to necrophilia. There is already a perfectly good history section. If there are no responses to this I will go ahead with it. Apollo The Logician (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2017 (UTC) Apollo The Logician (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No thanks. This article is just more than history. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:54, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]