Talk:Independent Jewish Voices

list of signatories (for someone to pick the most famous)
Dr Lisa Appignanesi / Dr Paul Auerbach / Pete Ayrton / Julia Bard / Sir Geoffrey Bindman / Jonathan Bloch / Prof Irene Bruegel / Jennie Buckman / Prof Brian Butterworth / Jane Caplan / Sarah Caplin / Beatrice Clarke / Barry Cohen / Prof Gerald Cohen / Prof Stan Cohen / Lady Ellen Dahrendorf / Jenny Diski / Professor Elizabeth Dore / Musa Moris Farhi / Nicole Farhi / Nina Farhi / Prof Stephan Feuchtwang / Prof Nina Fishman / Prof John Forrester / Dr Edie Friedman / Stephen Fry / Uri Fruchtman / Alexander Goehr / Rabbi Dr David Goldberg / Martin Golding / Geoffrey Goodman / Jeremy Green / Stephen Grosz / Dr Don Guttenplan / Michael Halpern / Michelle Hanson / Jenny Harris / Prof Margaret Harris / Abe Hayeem / Rosamine Hayeem  / Prof Sue Himmelweit / Prof Eric Hobsbawm / Marlene Hobsbawm / Eva Hoffman / Luke Holland / Dr Anthony Isaacs  / Dr Jeremy Isaacs / Prof Anne Janowitz / Lawrence Joffe / Ann Jungman / Prof Emanuel de Kadt  / Dr Keith Kahn-Harris  / Prof Cora Kaplan  / Anne Karpf  / Amira Katz-Goehr  / Beeban Kidron  / Reva Klein  / Pam Kleinot  / Dr Brian Klug  / Prof Francesca Klug  / Dr Tony Klug  / Marion Kozak  / Richard Kuper  / Prof Tony Kushner  / Michael Kustow  / David Lan  / Judith Lancet / Mike Leigh / Prof Stephen Lerman / Dr Mark Levene / Dr Carl Levy / Susan Loppert / Heinz Lubasz / Prof Steven Lukes / Deborah Maccoby / Dr Ruth Mandel  / Dennis Marks  / Prof Shula Marks  / Mike Marqusee / Neil Martinson / Dr David Metz / Chris Mohr  / Ian Montrose  / Louise Morris / Paul Morrison / Turi Munthe / Braham Murray / Maurice Naftalin / Prof Mica Nava / Diana Neslen / Victoria Neumark / Prof Mike Newman / Carey Oppenheim / Prof Susie Orbach / Dr Kathy Panama / Prof Naomi Pfeffer  / Adam Phillips / Caroline Pick / Prof Daniel Pick / Harold Pinter / Sigrid Rausing / Prof Sir Nigel Rodley / Prof Jacqueline Rose / Barbara Rosenbaum / David Rosenberg / Leon Rosselson / Anthony Rudolf / Ken Sabel / Prof Andrew Samuels / Rabbi Elizabeth Tikvah Sarah / Jess Wood Sarah / Prof Donald Sassoon / Ruth Schamroth / Dr Joseph Schwartz / Graeme Segal / Prof Lynne Segal / Ronald Segal / Susan Segal / Prof Richard Sennett / Prof Avi Shlaim / Rabbi Sheila Shulman / Dr Jonathan Sklar / Hazel Slavin / Gillian Slovo  / Robyn Slovo / Shawn Slovo / Henry Stewart / Ruth Stone / Dr Judith Suissa / Susan Sutcliffe / Janet Suzman / Dr Barbara Taylor  / Ruth Tenne  / Asher Tlalim / Ronit Tlalim  / Dr Elaine Unterhalter  / Zoë Wanamaker  / Eyal Weizman / Prof Sami Zubaida -- User:BozMo
 * An RS is needed to substantiate these claims about living people before they can be included. ' Ankh '. Morpork  20:10, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I disagree. It is a notable well respected group with a well controlled signatory list. AFAIK there has been no controversy or suggestion that any signatory is other than genuine in the last 7 years. And most of the more famous ones have RS in the media discussing it. --BozMo talk 20:21, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Conspicous ommissions
I viewed the text of the declaration at http://jewishvoices.squarespace.com/declaration-2/, and noticed that there was nothing whatsoever on most of the concrete political issues which have arisen within Britain, such as academic boycotts. Any statement which leaves upleasant individuals like Mona Baker of UMIST free to continue down their path of bias and discrimination unchallenged and uncondemned is rather unlikely to calm the political waters... AnonMoos 14:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm.

 * Could you point me somewhere where I can read about the "concrete political issues which have arisen within Britain"? I am honestly not sure which issues you are talking about (and haven't heard of Mona Baker) --BozMo talk 14:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You could turn up plenty of info by putting "Mona Baker" or "boycott Israel" into search forms at British newspaper websites.  -- AnonMoos 14:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, but these articles seem to be people advocating boycotting Israel. This network is broadly a group of Jews who are representing some sort of "not in my name" approach to Israeli policy. Both seem opposed to Israeli actions in Palestine, why should one refer to the other? I am sorry if this seems silly but I honestly don't get it. --BozMo talk 15:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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Possible sources

 * A time to speak out IJV founding statement
 * Independent Jewish noise by Seth Freedman
 * Who speaks for the Jews of Britain by Brian Klug
 * Prominent Jews call for open debate on Israel The Observer
 * UK Jews push for 'different voices' Jerusalem Post (Associated Press)
 * British Jews break way from 'pro-Israel' Board of Deputies The Independent
 * British Jews form breakaway group European Jewish Press

Hashomer 20:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Response from UK Board of Deputies
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/822735.html --70.51.230.180 06:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Similarity between Independent Jewish Voices and J Street
Independent Jewish Voices, which is based in the UK, appears to be similar to the new American J Street group in motivation and purpose in my opinion. I am surprised that no one has made the explicit comparison yet. --John Bahrain (talk) 00:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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