Talk:Independent clause

Wikipedia's Strunk & White entry includes this item in the list of "Elementary rules of usage": Do not join independent clauses by a comma. S&W also tell us Do not break sentences in two.

Let's try and refrain from writing objective things in articles that May come off as offensive to some such as the term "FANBOY". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.141.208.108 (talk) 05:18, 26 November 2012 (UTC) The original examples did precisely that:


 * I am a bus driver. (simple sentence)
 * I drive a bus. (simple sentence)
 * I am a bus driver, and I drive a bus. (compound sentence)
 * I want to be an astronaut, but I haven't gotten my diploma. (compound sentence)
 * I am a bus driver, but I want to be an astronaut. (compound sentence)
 * Go to the store, and get me a copy of Planetside. (compound sentence) (Though a subject is not visible, in English the subject of an imperative is considered to be the pronoun 'you')

The correct examples are properly written as thus:


 * I am a bus driver. (simple sentence)
 * I drive a bus. (simple sentence)
 * I am a bus driver and drive a bus. (compound sentence)
 * I want to be an astronaut but I haven't gotten my diploma. (compound sentence)
 * I am a bus driver but I want to be an astronaut. (compound sentence)
 * Go to the store and get me a copy of Planetside. (compound sentence) (Though a subject is not visible, in English the subject of an imperative is considered to be the pronoun 'you')

I am not at all confident that these are in fact real examples of Independent Clauses. I rather suspect the original author knows little more than I do... and if I knew what an Independent Clause is, I wouldn't have clicked onto this page in the first place!

Although Jessica goes to the lake,she doesn't like to swim.

ALthough (conjunction)

Although Jessica goes to the lake. (dependent claues)

she doesn't like to swim.(independent clause)

hi i am bb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.74.247.10 (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. The examples are NOT just putting commas between independent clauses. They are putting a comma and a coordinating conjunction, so they are just fine. Your example "I am a bus driver and drive a bus," is NOT a compound sentence, because there is no subject after the "and" -- this means you have a single clause, with a compound verb. A compound sentence needs two or more clauses. Your other examples do have two clauses combined by coordinating conjunctions, but they do need the comma before the conjunction (at least by the "standard" rule).

Wikinetman (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Please don't use gender-discrimination in Wikipedia articles.
This article consists of the term "FANBOYS", which is gender-discrimination.

It also serves no immediate purpose to use the term "FANBOYS" other than to seek offensive reactions, and offend readers, or enable readers to believe that gender-discrimination is okay when it isn't.

The gender-bias in this article won't be overlooked by me. Please correct the discrimination to a more acceptable worded article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.19.117 (talk) 21:37, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you could detail exactly how the use of the term as a mnemonic device is discriminatory as well as who, exactly, is harmed by such discrimination. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The word Fanboys is not offensive in the least. It is just a word that refers to fans who are typically male and immature. Saying it is gender discrimination is lunacy.Walterego (talk) 00:39, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Reverted Edit
I made an edit to this page but it was reverted on the grounds that it was disruptive. The source I picked was reliable and I was adding additional information to this page (there's barely anything in this article currently). 99.252.156.13 (talk) 03:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Why does "matrix clause" redirect here?
Not mentioned in article. Is it a synonym? Equinox ◑ 22:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)