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I would like to add more general information
I would like to add more general information at the beginning of this article. I also found specific dates for when the Olympics was re-established that I would like to add. Dgusby (talk) 21:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In Wikipedia you don't need permission to edit articles, as long as you do it in good faith.--Nitsansh (talk) 18:15, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I removed this section
I removed this section because it was biased and poorly worded. I think the criticisms are worth mention but should be thoroughly reworded before they can be added back to the article. Kent Wang 20:12, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Athletes and individual sports federations were also involved in this process after the unaccountable, self-perpetuating nature of the IOC led to sustained criticism (notably by British journalist Andrew Jennings) as an unrepresentative, undemocratic, nepotistic, and unaccountable body, largely run for the benefit of the delegates and having little to do with the ideals expressed in its charter. This exclusive and corrupt nature of the IOC and a small group of individuals who control almost all international sport has earned it the title of "The Club".


 * "The Club" was created by Horst Dassler, together with Patrick Nally they used the monetary benefit of sports marketing to gain control of federations and national olympic committees to ultimately control the IOC and the olympics.

"By law..."
"By law, all IOC members must retire at the age of 81." Funny... I didn't know NGOs could make laws. --cuiusquemodi 03:55, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

(:- The International Olympic Committee does not consider itself an NGO, but a private government.  :-) Haven't you noticed that they can give the titles of "His Excellency" and "The Honourable" to their chairman and the committee members? More power to them.

Needs clean-up
This article contains links to "Summer Olympic Games" and to "Winter Olympic Games", but not to "Olympic Games" (which should be "Modern Olympic Games". As a result, I can't get directly from here to a discussion of the amateurism conflicts.  I think that a clean-up and relinking is in order.

- -    Robert McClenon

IOC President
I think there should be some information about the IOC President election: when is the next one, what is the duration of a term ? how many terms can a President make, etc ?194.183.196.141 8 July 2005 12:49 (UTC)

IOC President
I added some info from the Charter. Hope this helps.

Anahé

Removal
"By law, all IOC members must retire at the age of 81."

See IOC Charter, 1) it's not by law, but following the IOC Charter and ") it's not 81 but 70 years old

Anahé - 12 October 2005

Olympic Scandals
The scandals and corruption with the IOC has been a major part of the organization for decades, perhaps this needs to be emphasized more in the article?

Thedrewid314 14:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)thedrewid314

Criticism
I agree to Thedrewid314. A "criticism" paragraph could sum up all the scandals around the IOC (e.g. Olympics in Munich) and their more recent controversial decisions regarding the Beijing Olympics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.218.252 (talk) 11:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

dance sports the next in line for olympic games!
have you figure it out dancesport-lovers? see it. Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Sp


 * They may be in line, but there are at least dozen sports ahead of them...--Nitsansh (talk) 18:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Controversies
They have been the IOC's last name (instead of Committee) since day 0 (some say even earlier). The first 101 years (until SLC was elected) are littered with so many of them that can justify a seperate article...--Nitsansh (talk) 18:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The article should mention their reprehensible behavior toward the Gay Games in 1982. The action was widely perceived as blatant homophobia, as claims of injury ring hollow in light of the then-extant Police Olympics, Frog-Jumping Olympics, and so on. 173.205.212.198 (talk) 20:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi I whant to come bike 🚴 international games from Afghanistan 🇦🇫 156.229.37.48 (talk) 08:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect
The article says: "Ski jumping is the last remaining Olympic sport that bars women from competing.". This is not quite true. Women's ski jumping has been added to the olympic program from 2014 on. However, there is no competitive class at all for women in nordic combined. This fact needs to be updated and added to the article. Blue Elf (talk) 16:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

DOBs in President list
Do we really need to list the dates of births & deaths for each President, when no other officeholdeer list (e.g. List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom) does this? - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 15:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see a need for it. (As an aside, some lists, e.g. List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States do have birth/death dates, but that's more pertinent to offices with life tenure).  -- Jonel (Speak to me) 02:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, we do not. Evanh2008 (talk&#124;contribs) 06:24, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:34, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope. - Oreo Priest  talk 17:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and taken them out. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 13:26, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Ferenc Kemény
The link to Ferenc Kemény (first IOC member) leads to the wrong Ferenc Kemény. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.224.25.226 (talk) 14:38, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Youtube Video Takedown Controversies?
Could this be added?

some sources are:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/26/london-2012-opening-ceremony-footage-youtube

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/26/youtube-videos-olympic-ceremony-danny-boyle_n_1705300.html

http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/28/ioc-starts-to-delete-unauthorized-video-of-olympics-on-youtube/

http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/07/28/london-2012-olympics-unauthorized-videos-on-youtube-taken-down/#.UB79XJFSSQo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.132.229 (talk) 23:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

IOC Anti-semetism
Why no mention of rogg'es refusal to honor the murdered Israeli athletes or Brundage refusing to allow jewish athletes compete in 1936?Solarsheen (talk) 18:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

London 2012 Criticism / Controversy
Where are the 2012 IOC controversies? This is article is very biased in favor of IOC censorship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.240.150.14 (talk) 16:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

List some here and I'll start adding.--Aichik (talk) 16:43, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

IOC drops wrestling from 2020 Olympics
Wrestling has been voted off from a final group of other sports that have included modern pentathlon, taekwondo and field hockey. but from the group wrestling has been dropped. The IOC says if they can eliminate one sport than they can add another to its 26 sports on the current program. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2013/02/12/ioc-drops-wrestling-2020-olympics/1912179/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:980:45E4:1:C8D4:D278:A30C:C872 (talk) 14:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Substantial use of primary source
This article heavily violates this main tenet of Wikipedia. Let's start fixing!--Aichik (talk) 16:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Denial of Turkey's olympic bid should be mentioned
Turkey's bid being denied was obviously a form of religious discriminations and racism. No middle east country has been given the Olympics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.26.105.141 (talk) 04:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Hi, User:203.97.127.101 you removed the section Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In my opinion this deserves place. The critics point that International Olympic Committee does not allow the freedom of expression. I cited [Stephane Hessel]] to confirm that the Universal Human Rights are equal in every country. In the 2014 Winter Olympics in Russia International Olympic Committee did not allow freedom of expression in Russia.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 19 Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Watti Renew (talk) 16:25, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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History?
There must be a few things known about the history. When and where was it founded? Etc..... It would be great to include a section on the history near the beginning.--345Kai (talk) 20:43, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

IOC Members
I noted a "Please clarify" in the first sentence of the article. If the notes are updated than is can be resolved I think. Change note 1 to this page There is 1 honarary president, 98 members,, 36 honarary members and 1 honour member (Who? > Henry Kissinger) Alex76 (talk) 13:27, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

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John Coates
Isn't John Coates still one of the IOC Vice Presidents? Or is he replaced by Anita DeFrantz? Johnny Brockman (talk) 07:09, 23 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Mr. Coates has concluded his term as an IOC Vice President, but is still a member of the IOC. Anita DeFrantz has filled the seat he held as a Vice President. --WRCosA (talk) 18:54, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Biased Introduction
The horribly biased wording of the intro to this article makes sounds like it was written by the IOC! This needs to be fixed ASAP. Edit: Other sections need major work as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.212.64 (talk) 18:37, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Off topic chat
Scientifically proving you are a Male is unscientific according to the IOC

"The IOC used to conduct gender verification tests at the Olympics, but those chromosome-based screenings were dropped before the 2000 Sydney Games because they were deemed unscientific and unethical."

How does the IOC get science proving a fact as unscientific? Facts can not be unscientific! Or unethical? Facts can be unethical? --Apemonkey1 (talk) 10:36, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Addition to Controversies
I am adding a subheading within controversies for sex verification. I explore history of the use and the controversy as well as hyperlinks to a few notable cases. Aefmra (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Olympic Movement
What is the "Olympic Movement" - how should it be described neutrally? The term appears numerous times in this article, including in the lead section, but is never defined. It's always sounded quite self-aggrandizing and vague to me - not NPOV or common language - and regardless of what I think, given that it's capitalized, it needs to be defined.

The IOC defines it as follows:


 * The Olympic Movement is the concerted, organised, universal and permanent action, carried out under the supreme authority of the IOC, of all individuals and entities who are inspired by the values of Olympism.


 * The goal of the Olympic Movement is to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practised in accordance with Olympism and its values.

So, it's not a great definition. For what it's worth, the aforementioned values are "excellence, friendship and respect."

I've edited this sentence in the second paragraph: "The IOC is the governing body of the National Olympic Committees (NOCs), which are the national constituents of the worldwide Olympic Movement" -- to read "The IOC is the governing body of the the National Olympic Committees (NOCs) and of the worldwide "Olympic Movement", the IOC's term for all entities and individuals involved in the Olympic Games." I don't love it, but it's a start. Amongst other things, the IOC's definition - which is in agreement with the common sense of "movement" - refers to the collective _action_ of the entities, not the entities themselves; but I couldn't find a way to phrase that which didn't sound like the IOC's own vague fluff.

tl;dr I'd appreciate if someone can make a further improvement to the article's handling of the "Olympic Movement" - and of related articles', such as National Olympic Committee. SSSheridan (talk) 20:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Russia
Because of what is going on in Ukraine, I believe The Olympic Committees needs to ban Russia from all Olympics!! I fully understand the Russian athlete’s have done nothing wrong but they are part of Russia and Putin needs to be Sanctioned to the fullest. We around the world say we are upset, disappointed and disgusted with what Putin is doing to the poor people of Ukraine, if this is true Please Sanction Russia by not allowing Russia/Roc to compete in any Olympics. Let’s stand up to Putin and let him know we will Sanction him in every way including the Olympics. Please help us in Sanctioning Russia. Thank you 🇺🇸 216.245.72.173 (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Letter to the IOC
Dear IOC,I think you should add ski mountaineering because I want it to be more interesting for the spectators around the world. From Noah Gressley 204.126.11.208 (talk) 15:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Bold 114.10.22.145 (talk) 06:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC)