Talk:Isa Alptekin

Page full of what seems to be anti-isa altepkin slander
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an expert on Isa Altepkin, nor am I saying he's an angel (I don't have the resources to make any judgement of his character). Rajmaan and what I presume are his sockpuppet or alt accounts have edited his page to view him in the worst light possible, stating that he is a self-proclaimed uighur nationalist and actually a supporter of the KMT. How do you support the KMT if you're one of the most prominent uighur nationalists? This page should be wiped completely and re-researched, as it's entirely biased.

Charlesthe50th, ''' Talk  21:42, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

This page is pure Chinese black propoganda and slender. It is so ridiculous, it even contradicts itself. The page both proclaims Isa Alptekin as a Pan-Turkist ultranationalist, and also says he worked with Chinese goverment and objected every nationalist and separatist movement in Eastern Turkestan. Ths page should be a source of shame for Wikipedia.85.101.122.166 (talk) 17:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Isa alptekin defending killers of sheng shicai's adolescent niece and nephew
Isa supported revenge killings against relatives of sheng shicai

http://books.google.com/books?id=SK7Jdfnf9RIC&pg=PA191#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 20:06, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Ma Fuliang?
Ma Fuliang?

I'm not sure, but I think this guy 成吉斯汗 who traveled with Alptekin is the same guy as Ma Fuliang, which appears to be his adopted Chinese name. His real Turkic name is 成吉斯汗.

成吉斯汗_(國大代表)

The following source has a mistake - Alptekin was not a Hui and if I'm correct about Ma Fuliang being the same person as 成吉斯汗 he is not a Hui either. The source has "Ozbek Ma" in parentheses next to his name, he unlike a Hui, but rather like a "Uyghur" he took interest in Xinjiang.

http://books.google.com/books?id=rsLQdBUgyMUC&pg=PA90#v=onepage&q&f=false

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"Sinkiang Youths in Chungking Air Raid Relief Intensified To bring increased efficiency to air. LED by Ma Fu-liang, Moslem member of the Mongolian and Tibetan Affairs Commission, the second batch of 10 Sinkiang Mohammedan youths have"

http://books.google.com/books?id=eM44AQAAIAAJ&q=Ma+Fu-liang+Moslem#search_anchor

Title	China Magazine, Volumes 4-5 Published	1940 Original from	the University of California Digitized	Sep 13, 2010 Export Citation	BiBTeX EndNote RefMan

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"LED by Ma Fu-liang, Moslem member of the Mongolian and Tibetan Affairs Commission, the second batch of 10 Sinkiang Mohammedan youths have arrived in Chungking after a rigorous trip via India and Rangoon. This brings the total of the ..."

http://books.google.com/books?ei=JDuxUOu9DYyL0QGe3oCgDg&id=z4VKAAAAMAAJ&dq=Sinkiang+Youths+in+Chungking+LED+by+Ma+Fu-liang%2C+Moslem&q=Sinkiang+Youths+Ma+Fu-liang%2C+Moslem#search_anchor

Title	China at War, Volumes 5-6 Contributor	China Information Committee Publisher	China information publishing Company., 1940 Original from	the University of Michigan Digitized	Sep 26, 2007 Rajmaan (talk) 17:22, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Aptekin's service in the Chinese government

http://books.google.com/books?id=74VtAAAAMAAJ&q=OBITUARY+ISA+YUSUF+ALPTEKIN+-+a+great+mujahid+died+East+Turkistan+Leader+Isa+ifusuf+Alptekin+died+on+17+Dec+'95+at+Istanbul.+According+to+Turk+Dili+(Turkish+language)+Journal+of+the+Turkish+Language+Society,+Ankara,+dated+Feb+'96,+Isa+...&dq=OBITUARY+ISA+YUSUF+ALPTEKIN+-+a+great+mujahid+died+East+Turkistan+Leader+Isa+ifusuf+Alptekin+died+on+17+Dec+'95+at+Istanbul.+According+to+Turk+Dili+(Turkish+language)+Journal+of+the+Turkish+Language+Society,+Ankara,+dated+Feb+'96,+Isa+...&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1v0eU6fCI6Xp0wHuuoHoBA&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA

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http://books.google.com/books?id=74VtAAAAMAAJ&q=Born+in+Sinkiang,+he+studied+in+Kashghar+and+later+became+a+Turkish+languae+teacher+of+the+Chinese+Officer+Chin+De+Li+and+went+to+Soviet+Central+Asia+(West+Turkistan)+along+with+him+to+work+in+the+Chinese+diplomatic+office.+He+came+in+close&dq=Born+in+Sinkiang,+he+studied+in+Kashghar+and+later+became+a+Turkish+languae+teacher+of+the+Chinese+Officer+Chin+De+Li+and+went+to+Soviet+Central+Asia+(West+Turkistan)+along+with+him+to+work+in+the+Chinese+diplomatic+office.+He+came+in+close&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Af8eU7HDAon40wHI_4GQDw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA

http://books.google.com/books?id=74VtAAAAMAAJ&q=While+in+Central+Asia+during+1926,+he+was+disturbed+by+the+rebellion+of+his+people+in+Sinkiang+which+resulted+in+the&dq=While+in+Central+Asia+during+1926,+he+was+disturbed+by+the+rebellion+of+his+people+in+Sinkiang+which+resulted+in+the&hl=en&sa=X&ei=L_4eU_OUNsfK0gH3v4CwBg&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA

http://books.google.com/books?id=74VtAAAAMAAJ&q=Turkistan.+During+the+Sino-Japanese+War+he+advocated+the+cause+of+China+and+continued+his+efforts+for+the+autonomy+of+Sinkiang.&dq=Turkistan.+During+the+Sino-Japanese+War+he+advocated+the+cause+of+China+and+continued+his+efforts+for+the+autonomy+of+Sinkiang.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TP4eU4TTFMPw0AG3hoGACw&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA

Rajmaan (talk) 12:36, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Mentioned in U.S. Congressional Record
From 1978 through 1981 I was stationed at Fort Lewis, Washington with the U.S. Army. Due to an unusual circumstance I came to know one of Mr. Isa Yusuf Alptekin's daughter(s)-in-law. She was serving in the U.S. Army there also. Her late husbands name was Arslan and they had one son. Arslan died several years ago, and he is one of Mr. Isa Yusuf Alptekin's sons. Our families became friends and we had many good times. Arslan told me many stories of his family and people, which I enjoyed. He once showed me a copy of the (U.S.) Congressional Record in which his father was mentioned. I do not remember the date of the documents, nor who spoke. I recall the congressman or senator spoke of the Uyghur people's struggle etc., and favorably of Mr. Isa Yusuf Alptekin. I recently renewed contact with Arslan's widow. I will ask her if she has the document, so that I may cite it in this article. I had no success in searching for this document. I reckon it would be interesting. Tjlynnjr (talk) 04:44, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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