Talk:Italian comics

Italian Comics
It's good to see this page is growing and people are paying attention to it. Lvr 12:40, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, although it's still quite slow growth... =S
 * I've tried to read the Comics page on the Italian wiki, but it is not talking much about a specific italian comics history. I'll try to read again and see if there is something we could had here (e.g. the specific Walt Disney Italian story). Lvr 09:25, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * That could be added to the Disney comics article, perhaps.
 * I'm working on the history of italian comics. It will take a while, but hopefully it will be quite exaustive. I welcome suggestions and comments. Pcostabel 01:50, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Alan Ford
Is "Alan Ford" really famous outside of Italy? I have never heard of him... BTW, I created this page, and the examples i included are (at least) famous among many western-world comic fans.
 * Alan Ford is very famous in countries of ex Yugoslavia (I could even go far enough to say that Alan Ford is the most popular comic book in exYugoslavia), but that's all I know. I assumed that it must be famous elsewhere as well (aside for the USA, of course). Now that I googled for "Alan Ford", it seems that most pages are either from Italy or from Croatia and Serbia. Don't know, perhaps it's not that famous in other regions, I just grew up believing it is. :) Feel free to remove it if you wish. --Dejan Cabrilo 02:14, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I just wanted to know, actually seems too hard to remove information put in by others... I guess it's good, now that you have written a page about it at all...
 * Remove ????
 * I've never heard about this comics but if somebody thinks it is famous, even if it is only Italy and Croatia, it deserves to be mentionned on Wikipedia. This is a Worlwilde-Wikipedia. Just check stuff on US-wrestlers ! I don't think a page about this comic book is less interessant that these wrestlers pages... I check the Italian wikipedia, and this comic books is quite praised there. If I had to vote for deletion, i'll say Keep it Lvr 12:40, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I guess that if the page would be too long and cumbersome, it could be considered, but for now, all we have managed to do is a small, not particularly exhaustive, list of some random comics, anyway.


 * Are you crazy ????
 * Alan Ford was a very important italian comic of the late sixties, an acid parody of James Bond and of italian society of the time written by Max Bunker and originally drawn by Magnus up till number sixty. In fact, it was so bound to Italian society (and to italian leftist of the '70s) that it never sold too well outside the country, where the irony was almost always "lost in translation".It's true that the series is still alive way past her "prime" and her popularity has nowadays quite faded away, but historically is still one hundred times more important than all the crap of Teodorani(a good guy,I met him when he was distributing copies of the "Informagiovani Borgomanero" where he was publishing his stories at the time, but surely not one of the best italian story writers ever, where Bunker at his best was one of them) I've seen in the list. By the way, Max Bunker still writes old Alan Ford, and even boiled over as it is it still sells his fifteen thousands copy each month, in Italy. More or less like Teodorani's Djustine.Woongah (talk) 02:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Giuseppe Bergman
Sorry, It seems as if the "Giuseppe Bergman" series wasn't done in collaboration with Hugo Pratt, anyway. Manara wrote them, himself. The "HP" character in them is probably an hommage to Hugo, but that's all. My bad!

Reformat
I don't like that my former edits were edited out, because of missing links, since I think these examples are major important ones, anyway, I keep them here on the discussion page:

Some famous italian comics are
 * Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt,
 * Giuseppe Bergman by Hugo Pratt and Milo Manara,
 * Click ("Il Giotto") by Milo Manara,
 * Dylan Dog by Tiziano Sclavi,
 * Cocco Bill by Benito Jacovitti,
 * Alan Ford by Max Bunker
 * Valentina by Guido Crepax.


 * Dear 213.112.113.74, I really do appreciate what you said "I don't like that my former edits were edited out". This is a  collaborative encyclopedia ! So if you don't want your edits to be edited out, you should not write on Wikipedia !
 * More seriously, the reasons why I reformatted this article were to be have in similar layout than then similar pages (Franco-Belgian comics, ...), but this is may be reviewed, if this list is limited to only the historically signifiant comics.
 * Lvr 10:18, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, I understand, I put these authors back in the list, anyway.

Morgan
If Morgan a realy important Italian Comic book, or is it just another Hogo Pratt comics (and his last one). There is no page for this comics. If it is that important, it should deserve at least its own page. I propose to remove it from the list. Lvr 09:26, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Are there all famous ?
I wonder if all the authors listed here are really "famous". Could you check and keep only the important ones with a real importance in the Italian comics history. The other ones should be moved to List_of_comic_creators (if there aren't already). Idem for the "famous" comic books. Lvr 14:13, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * All the authors I added are famous in my opinion. The list of all italian artists would fill several pages. Pcostabel 01:09, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

"Topolino" comic wrong link
Topolino in this article redirects to the Fiat Topolino automobile (completely unrelated). It's a major publication in Italy, does an article on the Topolino comic currently exist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.237.76.34 (talk) 17:30, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Humorous comics
This article seems to be biased against humorous comics. In fact, explaining the beginnings of Italian cartoons, it misses Antonio Rubino, the most remembered comics drawer before World War I. Both Mussino and Rubino based their strips on parodies of school culture: Bilbolbul is a parody of idioms, while Quadratino (Little square) is a parody of geometry. Where the article is most omissive is about Fascism. In fact, it misses the three most important characters of the period, reprinted for decades on Corrierino. "Il signor Bonaventura" is the Italian response to "Happy Hooligan", with a big difference: if the latter is always unlucky, at the end of every story Bonaventura wins a million liras. "Sor Pampurio" (an Italian equivalent of "Bringing Up Father") is a parody of parvenus: really, it is not Fascist, it expresses the bourgeois classism. Finally, "Marmittone" is a mild antimilitaristic strip, the maximum antiauthoritarianism allowed by Fascism. About the Postwar period, the article misses the comics of Benito Jacovitti, who is the most important humoist comic-writer of the age, the equivalent of Bonelli for humour. Finally, about recent years, the article misses "Lupo Alberto" (Albert the wolf), the most popular humorous strip of the last decades. Lele giannoni (talk) 09:31, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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