Talk:Ivo of Kermartin

The epitaph's translation

On his tomb was supposedly inscribed in Latin: Sanctus Ivo erat Brito,/ Advocatus et non latro,/ Res miranda populo.

Roughly translated, this means: "St Ives was from the Breton land/ A lawyer, and an honest man;/ God works miracles now and then." Literally translated, it is a quip that refers to the fact that both lawyers and Bretons have a reputation for thievery.

I am not sure this is the best translation. I propose : "St Ives was Breton, Lawyer and not a thief, Marvelous thing for the people". And I have never heard about the reputation for thievery on the Bretons ? (references, please). I think this "marvelous thing" only refers to his reputation of honest man despite his status of lawyer. Gwalarn 19:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the contrast is presumably between lawyers and thieves. For translation I propose (taking advantage of anonymity): "St Ivo was a Breton, / A lawyer and not a thief; / A wonderful thing to set eyes on, / In popular belief." Wikiain (talk) 23:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC

Actually it is an accurate translation - it's doggerel and so is the original. So I've put it into the article. Wikiain (talk) 00:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Partying?

I'm confused by the portion of the article that describes Ivo's classmates as "partying." This was the 13th century- it seems, at best, a little anachronistic. User:Manannan67 added that language years ago without citation. Is there a way to rephrase it (or maybe just delete it entirely)? @Manannan67 please respond. Hypernormal1 (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

The term is from Staley, cited at the end of the paragraph. I changed it to "caroused". If you don't like like it, feel free to either change/delete it. Manannan67 (talk) 16:06, 23 January 2022 (UTC)