Talk:J. Hector St. John de Crèvecœur

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This page has been vandalized; see e.g. "general" (instead of "lieutenant") or "raped" (instead of "married". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.232.21.43 (talk) 19:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC) Thanks! Vandalism has been reverted. Fairlane75 (talk) 16:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The article "Jean de Crèvecoeur" should be listed under "John Hector St. John" or "St. John de Crèvecoeur". Links should be displayed to the existing articles in French and German.

Page Name
As for as I can tell, I've seen about a zillion different names for this guy, but I've never seen the St. John at the end. Mabye this is correct, but I'm not convinced. I would say that the page should be titled "Michel Guillaume Jean de Crèvecoeur" because that is the bolded name in the intro paragrph, or "J. Hector St John de Crèvecoeur" because thats what the French Wikipedia page is called. FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 22:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What does the J. stand for? It is unlikely he was naturalized under an initial.
 * And we really should mention the last, anti-revolutionary, chapter of American Farmer, either here or in its article. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Cart before the Province
1. ". . .he moved to New York State, then the Province of New York. . ." Silly error or vandalism?

2. The farm is located on NYS Route 94 and lies between the Hamlet of Craigsville (Town of Blooming Grove) and the Village of Chester (Town of Chester) in Orange County. I don't know upon what side of the Town border the house lies. The area used to be called Greycourt. The original house was burned during the War, but the foundation still exists, supporting another, somewhat newer house. I will photograph it one of these days, if you'd like.

Crèvecoeur then wanted to become a squaw man during the American Revolution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.147.175.74 (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


 * 3. "Letter XII: "Distresses of a Frontier Man"- This letter describes the coming Revolutionary War and the narrator's stress of being caught between forces beyond his own control. This particular letter is the only one written that has any traces of anti-British ideas and opinions. The letter also includes James' view of the American Indians around him and his idea to run away with his family and live among them until the fighting began." [My emphasis.]


 * I am currently reading Letters from an American Farmer, "Letter XII". It's very clear that the War has already started when he writes:


 * ". . .at other times the howling of our dogs seems to announce the arrival of our enemy; we leap out of bed and run to arms; my poor wife, with panting bosom and silent tears, takes leave of me, as if we were to see each other no more; she snatches the youngest children from their beds, who, suddenly awakened, increase by their innocent questions the horror of the dreadful moment. She hides them in the cellar, as if out cellar was inaccessible to fire."


 * "I cannot count the the multitude of orphans this war has made nor ascertain the immensity of blood we have lost."


 * "Oh, were he situated where I am, were his house perpetually filled, as mine is, with miserable victims just escaped from the flames and the scalping knife, telling us of barbarities and murders that make human nature tremble. . ."


 * My version is The Penguin American Library, reprint of 1983. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 17:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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1801 book had a fake speech by Benjamin Franklin?
According to this blog post, Crèvecœur's 1801 book includes a fake speech by Benjamin Franklin written by Crèvecœur, putting his ideas into Franklin's mouth. Are there any credible sources that mention this, so it can be added to the article? Libertybison (talk) 02:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, there's his book, https://oupress.com/books/15441519/the-mound-builder-myth but I don't have a copy. -- Jibal (talk) 06:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC)