Talk:JD Samson

Speedy Deletion
http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/bios1/sams1.jpg that's even a photo from the scandal FRONT PAGE HEADLINE - unsigned comment
 * dont speedily delete this shit its all true i was there - unsigned comment
 * ME TOO GOD YOU PEOPLE AND UR SPEEDY DELETION MAYBE DO SOME RESEARCH FIRST HM

Coming out

 * I have known JD since childhood, and I can tell you that she did not come out publicly until she was a senior in high school, when she was at least 16. -- Mwalcoff 22:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

If you can show us a reference for this, please add it to the article. Dondiasco 11:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

the looking-like-a-man thing

 * well, it seems i've found the white elephant that nobody is willing to talk about. twice now i've added to samson's entry mentioning how she seems to actively pursue looking like a man.  twice my comments have been deleted.  neither time were they replaced with anything to enlighten the entry.  so... let's just say it.  the chick is trying to look like a dude.  does ANYONE have ANYTHING informative on this subject that they could add to the entry?  (beware, however... somebody out there doesn't want us to know)
 * Seriously, I came here to find out if she's male or female, and it says she's transgender and was born female but then goes on to refer to her with feminine pronouns. It's kind of important to talk about this person's gender in zir (I don't know what term to use) article since it appears to be kind of a big deal to them, their fans, etc ... 207.172.186.128 (talk) 18:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * A transgendered person is someone who assumes a different gender identity. Biologically, the person remains male or female. As far as JD is concerned, she dresses like a man, has a man's haircut and doesn't shave her facial hair. But, unlike "transmen," JD does not call herself a man and does not asked to be addressed as such. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

On a different note, I have some quite clear photos of her from a live le tigre gig. How would I go about attaching them to the article? I took the photos myself - does this mean that it's fine by copyright restrictions? 194.82.121.38 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not that she's trying to pursue looking like a man. She is a butch lesbian, and has naturally dark hair. A large number women have visible facial hair - don't assume that it's drawn or stuck on.


 * The looking-like-a-dude thing should be mentioned in the article. This was exactly the information I was looking for, and I had to check this talk-page to get the confirmation. --Non-reg.


 * I added that her stage persona is androgynous. I think that is a non-judgemental discription of her appearance. (Much like Ziggy Stardust was discribed as androgynous.) I also added a 2nd photo which reinforces this assertion. --72.202.150.92 05:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that's a good idea. I'm not sure if the 2nd photo constitutes fair use, but it definately illustrates the point better than the first image. I'll look into it. Dondiasco 11:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Some Wikipedia martinet is likely to come along and remove that, unless you give some fair-use justification on the image's page, but I guess you can wait until there's notification. Wwwhatsup 21:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, it looks like the image has been up for over a year, and is currently used in 3 other articles, so I think it could be ok. Well give it time though. I'm going to have a go at formatting the page to make more sense and look better - references placed properly and things soon, so I'll try and incorporate the image in that too. Dondiasco 01:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

MEN
There should be some mention of her new collab with Johanna? Wwwhatsup 19:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, I haven't heard about it, but if you could get a reference about it, the please add it to the article. I'd be interested in finding out more about it. Thanks in advance. Dondiasco 10:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Transgender reference
Is JD Samson transgendered? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.119.246 (talk) 17:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe she is. Kizki (talk) 06:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter what you believe. It matters how the person self-identifies. See MOS:IDENTITY: "An exception to the above is made for terms relating to gender identity. In such cases, Wikipedia favors self-designation, even when usage by reliable sources indicates otherwise." In one of the sources cited in this article, Samson says "I am a queer woman" and "I am a productive, workaholic, processing lesbian."


 * That article is dated 2011. If, in a later source, this person self-identifies as something other than a woman, then pronouns should be changed accordingly, per the same guideline: people should be referred to by pronouns "that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification." – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Stuff that needs refs
If the article seems a bit thin it's because the following was removed in this diff on the basis that it was unsourced. Please try and find reliable sources so that it may be re-added. Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

LE TIGRE Samson joined Le Tigre in 2000 when co-founder Sadie Benning left the band before the album Feminist Sweepstakes was recorded. Samson had previously worked as the band’s projectionist and operator of Benning's slide show during live performances in support of their first record, Le Tigre. The self-proclaimed "underground electro-feminist performance artists" combined visuals, music and dance in their performances. Samson's contributions to Le Tigre include the song "Viz", which deals with her experiences as a member of a sexuality minority, and “New Kicks” which contains excerpts of a protest that Samson recorded. 'Feminist Sweepstakes' (2001) came out on Chicks on Speed's record label. Le Tigre’s final album, This Island (2004), was Le Tigre's first on a major label (Universal Records). Ric Ocasek of the Cars produced one track, "Tell You Now." Samson and her Le Tigre bandmates Kathleen Hanna and Johanna Fateman also produced the Christina Aguilera song “My Girls ft. Peaches”, for Aguilera's album Bionic. In the second half of 2006 the band decided to take an extended break. JD SAMSON & MEN In 2007 Samson and Fateman formed a new project, MEN, as a DJ, production, and remix team. After initial songwriting and outside remix work, Fateman took time off to have a child, and Samson recruited the members of her side band Hirsute, including Ladybug Transistor’s Michael O’Neill and Ginger Brooks Takahashi, to perform live as MEN. Samson has said that their music speaks of “issues such as wartime economies, sexual compromise, and the demand for liberties through lyrical content and an inventive, high-energy stage show”. In 2009 MEN self-released an EP called MEN that sold out following US tours with Peaches and Gossip. MEN also toured in the UK and Europe during this time. Their debut album Talk About Body was released on February 1, 2011 via IAMSOUND in the US and through Sony/Columbia in Europe. The album included singles for the songs “Who Am I To Feel So Free”, “Off Our Backs”, and “Credit Card Babies”. In the spring of 2012 MEN changed their name to JD SAMSON & MEN and released an EP Next in April followed in September by the song “Let Me Out Or Let Me In” in support of the Russian feminist punk-rock collective Pussy Riot. JD SAMSON & MEN are currently recording their second full-length album and continue to tour. OTHER BANDS Samson also has performed as a member of the band The New England Roses and as keyboard player of electro-punk artist Peaches' live band, The Herms, with Radio Sloan and Samantha Maloney. SONGWRITING Samson has a songwriting and publishing deal through Universal Music Publishing Group. She has written songs for Christina Aguilera (“My Girls ft. Peaches”), Junior Senior (“Can I Get Get Get”), Cobra Starship (“Shwick”), French Horn Rebellion (“Girls ft. JD Samson and Fat Tony”), The Aikiu, Bitch the Ferron and Pelifics (“Spray Painted Knuckles”) among others. PERFORMANCE ART Samson is a co-founder of the performance art group Dykes Can Dance. In 2003, she released JD's Lesbian Calendar, a collaboration with photographer Cass Bird, which was followed up in 2006 with JD's Lesbian Utopia, a calendar documenting Samson's travels around the U.S. in an RV. FILM APPEARANCE Samson also appeared in John Cameron Mitchell's 2006 film Shortbus as "Jid", a patron of the Shortbus club. COMMENTARY Samson wrote a widely-quoted piece on the economics of being an artist for the Huffington Post in 2011. Titled “I Love My Job But It Made Me Poorer” the article examines the financial realities of a long-term career in music. In 2013 she began writing occasionally for The Talkhouse including a review of Bats for Lashes album The Haunted Man.

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Pronouns
Someone switched this to they/them pronouns without a source about a year back, and then it got changed back to "she". FYI, everything I can find says that Samson uses she/her.(2016 interview, description of her pronouns in 2019, NYT using "her" in 2020 article for which she posed in a photo -- presumably they asked her about her pronoun preference because they are also using "they" as appropriate elsewere) Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)