Talk:Jair Bolsonaro

Audio clip of voice


A user removed the voice clip from the infobox because the content of the speech is non-neutral and concerns a contentious lockdown-related issue. As we do not have a guideline for the use of free audio clips in articles, we will need to discuss this further. I don't think the subject matter of the speech is pertinent here, and it is the only audio clip of Bolsonaro on Commons. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 14:56, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * It should ideally be cut at 0:23 when someone else starts talking. He just brags about keeping 11 million jobs (presumably during the pandemic) and cites a couple of government programs responsible for it. The content is indeed non-neutral, but completely inconsequential. It's just ordinary political speech. Looking at WP:NPOV I don't see any policy against this. —Hugo Spinelli (talk) 19:20, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Lead: "was criticized across the political spectrum" is misleading
Depending on how you interpret this, the source given contradicts this claim. What the headline says is that the pandemic was politicized, which is accurate. While Bolsonaro was heavily criticized by the media, by health professionals, and by the left, he received overwhelming praise from his base and from most political allies. The most notable opposition from the right came from his former supporter João Doria, which is more accurately described as center-right, in my opinion. I suggest rewriting "was criticized across the political spectrum" to simply "was heavily criticized". —Hugo Spinelli (talk) 20:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, he was praised by his supporters, no doubt, as most politicians would, but he was indeed criticized across the political spectrum, on the left and the right, and, afterall, his supporters do not represent the entirety of the right (or even the far-right). I can only find sources in portuguese, but for instance right-wing groups like Free Brazil Movement (sources here and here) and some far-right personalities (like Nando Moura, here) criticized him over his handling of the pandemic. So, even on the right, outside of his circle of die-hard supporters, he was criticized. Coltsfan (talk) 21:02, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I forgot about MBL. Now that I think about it there were some people from NOVO too. Nando Moura is not relevant. I think the first link should be added as a source in the article. The other two are not relevant. They don't mention criticism towards Bolsonaro's handling of the pandemic. —Hugo Spinelli (talk) 22:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2024
I would like to add in the section "In Popular Culture" the following statement:

Since his election, Bolsonarism has become a cultural phenomenon, depicted in various cultural works throughout Brazil. One of the early examples, "A Nova Ordem" by Bernardo Kucinski, envisioned a dystopia with military elements, one of them bearing the same name as Bolsonaro, Messias. "O Presidente Pornô" by Bruna Kalil Othero presents a satire, blending reality and absurd fiction as a critique of the former president. As Sergio Schargel states in a review of Karl Erik Schøllhammer's latest book on contemporary Brazilian literature: "The recent  rise  of  the extreme right in Brazil has contributed to the formation of a literature concerned with socio-political issues, in an aesthetic attempt to make peace with a past that  has  never been  overcome" (https://tidsskrift.dk/bras/article/view/137094/185207 Brasiliana, Journal for BrazilianStudies. ISSN 2245-4373. Vol. 12, No. 1, 2023. ISSN: 2245-4373) Nicole Bazarov (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: This proposal contains only one source, which supports only the direct quotation at the end. The rest of this proposal lacks citations. Please provide reliable sources to support its inclusion, especially so this subject meets the guidelines of WP:DUE. To show that this subject is worthy of inclusion, it would be best to provide multiple secondary sources covering the subject of "Bolsonarism" and showing that they have indeed covered the topic of this concept with respect to cultural works in enough detail to warrant inclusion here. -- Pinchme123 (talk) 03:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

President until
Minor question, but I noticed that it says Bolsonaro served from 2019 until 2022. Shouldn't it be 2019 until 2023, because Lula didn't become sworn at midnight 1 January 2023, but in the afternoon, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 21:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Correct, otherwise it wouldn't last a complete four years. I'll fix it. Torimem (talk) 12:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)