Talk:James Bevel

Statue_of_Albert_Pike
Did James get convicted of "unlawful statue climbing" and sentenced to one week in jail for climbing this statue? There is lots of information about Bevel in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Albert_Pike#Reception which should be in this article... No? idk. I would try to add it, but I suspect there is someone here that would do that a lot better than I could... MrN9000 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * will take a look at this as time allows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AwoIf58 (talk • contribs) 08:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced statement
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AwoIf58 (talk • contribs) 07:01, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

…and removed September 2022 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AwoIf58 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

What did Bevel do in the 1970s?
The 1970s appears to be a big gap in his biographical history. AwoIf58 (talk) 07:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * See reply in the section below this one. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Question about David Garrow
Does Garrow independently and sufficiently attribute the "three major successes" claim in this inline source? Randy Kryn if this is so, please remember the WP:ONUS is on you to furnish the evidence (or otherwise prove the statement has enough weight to stand on its own from a neutral standpoint) if you'd like to keep the passage attributed to the disputed source, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AwoIf58 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * (Please note that AwoIf58 has been blocked as a sock puppet per Sockpuppet investigations/Awolf58.) Grayfell (talk) 02:09, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * For those who don't know, some former editors who find themselves blocked on Wikipedia continue to edit the encyclopedia through proxy accounts, until administrators find those and block them. Many of these writers continue to edit under different names and IP addresses. Wikipedia as big tent. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for some very good edits and clarifying tags on the page. There are quite a few sources about Bevel's work on the three movements which were used in the Garrow-published paper, and others have been published since, and yes, these should be on the page, as well as what I assume will be many good upcoming references in Thomas Ricks book to be published in early October. David Garrow cited the paper twice in his 1986 book Bearing the Cross. You ask about the 1970s, which Bevel spent as a minister and worked on various projects which didn't get much press or book coverage. My research and published material has focused on Bevel's role in the 1960s movements. His 1984 congressional campaign has available references, as he was the general election Republican candidate for Congress in what he knew was a heavily Democratic Chicago district. He ran to work on and publicize his educational agenda, and lost that 7th Congressional district race in a landslide (the overwhelmingly effective Cook County Democratic "machine" and Chicago's major media barely noticed that he was running). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:52, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

New source becomes available
There is a major new source for this page (and for other 1960s civil rights movement pages), the recently published book Waging a Good War: A Military History of the Civil Rights Movement, 1954-1968 by Thomas E. Ricks. For the purposes of this page, although it is a very good source for the individual movements, Diane Nash, Bernard Lafayette, Martin Luther King Jr., and many other Wikipedia topics, it seems to have finally given James Bevel much of his proper credit in a mainstream book. Hopefully page editors on all of those topics can make use of this source.

I'll personally get back to editing this page, adding requested references and more, as promised to an exceptionally enthusiastic editor who respects this page enough to show me that I should as well. My attention and energy have been barely on it for years, partly from the fact that I've been surprised but not surprised that more editors haven't jumped in and edited the article. As a subject matter expert on Bevel's work during the 1960s I'll only edit on that decade, although Ricks' book above contains updates about Bevel's life until his death in 2008. Hopefully others will join in editing this topic as it could, of course, benefit from more editors and references. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd like to credit that same editor for the inspiration to create Category:Historians of the civil rights movement, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit request
Since the 1980s are outside my editing date range for this page can someone check this one out and add back the below section which was removed during a large revert. It's a good edit and SEED should be on the page, not just something I'll add (I try to keep to the 1960s information). Randy Kryn (talk) 16:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks:

Students for Education and Economic Development (SEED)
In the 1980s and 1990s, Bevel founded and worked on Students for Education and Economic Development (SEED).