Talk:James Charles/Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March
I wish to add more titles he has such as a youtuber Sariannx (talk) 00:38, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2018
Androgynystar8 (talk) 05:37, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌, you haven't told us what edit you want making. Fish +Karate 09:09, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello! I would like to make an edit. James Charles now has over 10 million subscribers on YouTube and Instagram. Thank you! Izziem245 (talk) 21:35, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2019
has 14 million subscribers and over 1 billion views 2601:600:9E80:650:BD6F:4ED9:2FD3:E398 (talk) 01:47, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2019
He always says "Hi Sisters".I would like to add how he has a really good fortnite player which would raise his revenue and notability with the younger children. Thank You! George1234567890101010 (talk) 01:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ You haven't cited sources or stated what text to add. I have just had to warn you of vandalism to other articles, so there's no chance you'll add this here.Nick Moyes (talk) 01:39, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2019
Lemonz1230 (talk) 13:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC) james charles is most likely known for his scandals.
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Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2018
change title James Charles (model) to James Charles (YouTuber) or James Charles (makeup artist) as his most recognisable feats are as the last two mentioned. 175.32.123.179 (talk) 08:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
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Cousin to Andrew from the Applebees in Bethlehem, NY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurenbozy (talk • contribs) 13:49, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2019
james Charles is dropping because of Tati as she is gaining. Before James one million Tati posted a video of bye sister then started losing subscribers almost 2 million Grammly (talk) 20:04, 11 May 2019 (UTC)


 * We don't mention criminal accusations unless they have gotten multiple mentions in reliable sources. I have redacted the potentially libellous parts of your comment. – Þjarkur (talk) 20:20, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

source?
The page currently says "Also in May, many straight men came out and said Charles pressured them into considering homosexuality or bisexuality.[citation needed]" and that needs to be sourced or removed per BLP. 65.125.21.164 (talk) 04:45, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes this needs to be deleted. No source. To myknowledge it isn't true either. Lots of false claims being spread. JamesIsJacobs (talk) 10:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Please delete u sourced slander
Claims many men have accused James needs to be deleted. No source. Gossip n slander. Many false accusers. JamesIsJacobs (talk) 10:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Notability
Why exactly is James Charles a Wiki article? What is notable about him?


 * His only real notability is being the first male ambassador for CoverGirl – Cbabb7 (talk) 02:51, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

YouTube Record
There are no references anywhere on this page that backs up the claim "...he set a record for most subscribers lost in a single day and became the first YouTuber to lose over one million subscribers in under 24 hours..." This is being portrayed as fact to which there are no sources.


 * The fact was recorded by Social Blade and mentioned in multiple media sources (please see references 4, 5, 27). Juliette Han (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Incorporated into Controversies where it mentions subscriber counts and overall loss and gain during the time frame. Cbabb7 (talk) 23:42, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2019
he is famous for "hi sisters!" And also other memes.He has become a meme and his number one biggest fan watches him daily and is named "Seraphim".She says hi sisters and is an addiction. Chxnelle (talk) 12:18, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2019
Update it to 16.2 million subscribers you give exact for his high point but not exact for current. 67.169.192.51 (talk) 00:30, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done NiciVampireHeart 06:00, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2020
5.159.124.160 (talk) 14:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)sister to louise
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subscribers
change the youtube subscribers to 16.7M Yallahomg123 (talk) 04:38, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2020
Change the spelling of the name to Jamis Charlis SavageRoyale (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.--ⓋᎯ☧ǿᖇǥ@ℤε💬 18:51, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 10 March 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 18:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

– Only three other people with this name, all of whom seem relatively unknown compared to the YouTuber. The Internet personality also dominates search results for just "James Charles" and when I Googled the others one by one, I didn't get many relevant results, and a few results related to the YouTuber managed to creep in. The Internet personality also has |James_Charles_(painter)|James_Charles_(footballer)|James_Charles_(mariner)|James_Charles_(Internet_personality) page views in the millions whereas the other three barely get any, and the fact that the dab page easily comes in second place suggests that people are ending up there while searching for the YouTuber. ⓋᎯ☧ǿᖇǥ@ℤε💬 17:27, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * James Charles (Internet personality) → James Charles
 * James Charles → James Charles (disambiguation)


 * oppose - page views are not everything, especially when comparing a modern topic (arguably at the fleeting height of popularity) with much older ones with a rich history. A primary grab for a name needs to really pass a very high bar, which this one doesn't. --Netoholic @ 20:31, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Netaholic and WP:RECENTISM, especially considering James Charles (painter). Based on page views, the Internet personality has attracted attention in the community for less than one year, versus more than 140 years for the painter. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:20, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Pure WP:RECENTISM. What you actually mean is, none of the other people are endlessly discussed on the internet. That doesn't make them less notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - Surely, based on pageviews alone, he is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Yes, he only became popular recently and all the other people in the disambiguation page have been talked about way longer than him, but that only validates Vaporgaze's claim. When most people think of a "James Charles" they immediately think of the internet personality. As white as the name seems, it is not very common like James Smith or John Brown, all of whom could refer to multiple notable people. That does explain why there are few notable people named James Charles. I think these guys would explain what I'm trying to convey very easily:
 * — KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 15:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose. I feel confident in saying that the painter is likely to have at least as great an enduring notability and educational value (WP:PTOPIC#2) as the Internet personality. Narky Blert (talk) 15:22, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose (summoned by ping, no idea why) – Per policy, a primary topic should be much more prominent than all other eponymous topics combined, while taking into account both popularity and long-term significance. There is exceedingly little likelihood that the currently-popular youtuber will have more long-term significance than the 19th-century painter or the Cunard line commodore. Beware of undue recentism. — JFG talk 15:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose per recentism.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2020
He now has 17.1 million subscribers. 2601:582:4600:2855:157C:2E49:8D87:A4F5 (talk) 02:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2020
Change "17.5 M subscribers to "17.7 M subscribers"  Change "1.9 B views" to "2 B views" Annonymoussister (talk) 22:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2020
2605:A000:1328:4523:206F:4D8F:7579:FD59 (talk) 10:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)james Charles is now in a scandal when he made his "mugshot" challenge
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2020
LaeLitaH (talk) 20:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC) Change the picture to better one as a request from Charles himself
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: When a better image is available on Commons, it can be changed. Schazjmd   (talk)  20:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2020
quiero editar la foto de james charles Arianny Galeano a (talk) 21:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2020
I would like to change the photo for the James Charles wiki page. BeanieBae (talk) 05:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
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Please change his picture😂
Change his FRICKEN picture bro it’s ugly so many betters one. An I bet James would give you permission as well. KamronAlexander (talk) 17:52, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌, multiple people have explained to James on Twitter how to provide a better photo. When one is provided, it can be added to the article. Schazjmd   (talk)  18:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Permission to edit picture?
As previously noted, the picture is a inaccurate representation of how James Charles looks now, and it has been requested to be updated by James Charles himself. Ekerr2005 (talk) 18:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌, see requests above. Schazjmd   (talk)  19:11, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Twitter request
The reason for all the above requests is:

https://twitter.com/jamescharles/status/1261748724461522944

BTW the video the current image comes from is CC-BY so if anyone can find a better screenshot we could use that.©Geni (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Instant Influencer
Under the career tab, Instant Influencer should be updated to past tense as it aired on 4/24. Eeeethann (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2020
Chexmess (talk) 02:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC) I would like to become a editor for Wikipedia and require pure pristine facts about that person or place
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2020
https://www.girlfriend.com.au/media/30172/screen-shot-2020-04-02-at-75316-am.png?width=720&center=0.0,0.0 Noahhhess (talk) 05:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2020
change current photo of james charles to a new one

thumb|The Real Life James Charles Whome.idk (talk) 11:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes Whome.idk (talk) 11:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Image is not freely licensed and violate non-free use policy. -- Ìch heiss Nat  ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch! Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS).   05:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2020
I wanted to put how old he is now and put his youtube and Tik tok and insta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:6483:D700:3192:718A:3CD9:B117 (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Age is already in the infobox. We don't put social media links, see WP:ELNO. Schazjmd   (talk)  19:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2020
Girls all over the world admire him and see him as a SISTER 219.88.226.155 (talk) 21:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2020
James”Zakhia” charles 49.180.67.26 (talk) 11:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2020
He has reached 20.3 million subscribers as of July 21st, 2020. Https.nicholas (talk) 21:30, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Trivial but ✅. ◢ <i style="background-color:#d103ac; color:#fff"> Ganbaruby! </i>  (Say hi!) 05:57, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Update subscriber count and views
New data: Subscribers: 20.6 million Views: 2.4 billion ———————— Who can edit the protected pages? I am new to helping out the community. Thank you. Banana the best editor (talk) 13:17, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

protection
how do i un protect this so i can edit it Jack morris 7045 (talk) 07:51, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

It’s protected for a reason, so that it doesn’t have loads of vandalism. Once you make more edits on Wikipedia, you will be able to edit more and more protected pages. Doggy54321 (talk) 19:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Plagiarism accusations
I don't know the subject well so I'll let someone else add the information, James has been accused of and seems he has admitted plagiarism in his clothing collection.


 * https://www.insider.com/james-charles-accused-stealing-merch-designs-by-ethan-klein-2020-9
 * https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/ethan-klein-exposes-james-charles-admitting-he-ripped-off-h3h3-merch-1421721
 * https://www.popbuzz.com/internet/youtubers/james-charles-ethan-klein-twitter-hoodie-merch/
 * https://uk.news.yahoo.com/james-charles-accused-copying-merch-172905732.html

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 08:20, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2020
It states that James Charles has 22.5 Million subscribers, but he has 23 Million Subscribers. So remove that he has 22.5 million and add in 23 million. Trvlybreathin (talk) 15:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Terasail &#91;Talk&#93; 16:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Controversy section
The section about the controversy with Tati Westbrook neither explains what Tati alleged nor what evidence James provided to refute the allegations. It's entirely unhelpful to anyone actually trying to learn what happened - there are just some rando quotes and updates on subscriber counts. L.cash.m (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree. I stumbled upon this article today seeking some clarification in regards to what happened but found nothing useful. Do you have any suggestions on how it could be improved? I'm happy to help. Sean Stephens (talk) 22:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2020
the subcount is wrong and thats terrible for fuck sake BYE SISTERSSSSSCorpse321 (talk) 20:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2021
James Suhail Charles Prince Suhail72 (talk) 01:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I don't think that's his name. Volteer1 (talk) 03:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Exactly this is not his surname that is your username next time you wanna fool Wikipedia be smart, and don't even fool them.

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2021
Youtube Star he is friend with Lopez brothers and other tiktokers. 82.12.172.141 (talk) 13:02, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2020
[His dog in 2097 died of a heart attack and he has been scared since. He dedicates many things to his old friend and has worked very hard since for his little puppy, Jimmy.} Chunkychilly (talk) 18:58, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Hello, my guy up there clearly explained that James's Charles's dog has died from a heart attack I don't know are you blind on something but you should be able to see this and add this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noogometni urejevalec (talk • contribs) 20:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 march 2021
Why has there been written that he sang a cover of Driver license. I think this is completely unnecessary. If I would have Wikipedia and sang a cover of Drivers license would you put it there I am sure not so I don't know why would you even put that there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noogometni urejevalec (talk • contribs)
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2021
James Charles was accused in 2021 with the allegations but there is evidence that shows that are more than accusations to it should be reflected to show there was evidence presented 2600:1700:5F68:9D0:E566:8711:5778:B113 (talk) 02:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Could you please phrase that into a coherent sentence? And most importantly, to not violate WP:BLP, this requires a WP:RS. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:28, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Awards
are his people choice and teen choice noteworthy enough to be in the introduction. those awards are usually only in the body — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancer174 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2021
47.215.181.213 (talk) 19:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC) The scandal of James Charles grooming a 17 year old
 * There is a section on this in the article already. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Nudes
James Charles likes to post nudes on Twitter on accident 😳

oh damn... Baby giraffe101 (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)