Talk:Jamiroquai/Archive 1

Discussion
What is the meaning of the bandname "Jamiroquai"?
 * Look in the article's second paragraph, it's explained there -- Ferkelparade &pi; 7 July 2005 09:31 (UTC)

£1,000,000 Deal
There's no such thing as a £1,000,000 deal. All the separate costs payed by the record the company might have (doubtfully) added up to this figure but the actual deal itself could not be worth £1,000,000. Does anybody know what the actual figure is? It would be good to change it as this is misleading...


 * This is quite plausible. With that contract worth (apparently) £1m, Sony had basically secured Jay Kay's entire career.  Sony saw massive potential in JK, and signed him up on the strength of one single "when you gonna learn".  Sony seized the opportunity, and made a mint out of him.  Hence his current dislike of the label. Oh, and usually with contracts like that, the upfront amount is actually a LOAN.  The artist usually has to repay this loan, over many years, out of thier royalties.  [unsigned reply]


 * Music industry deals are often quoted in this way. I agree it's misleading but the finer points on who actually gets what from music deal's are rarely made public. Canderra 13:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It's actually not a LOAN but a recoupable advance, which the artist does not have to pay back if they do not make any money. There is no such thing as a £1 million deal. The supposed £1m would include all the costs of marketing, A&R etc. which the artist would not recieve, and I also very much doubt they spent this much on Jamiroquai. I am aware that deals are often quoted this way in the tabloids but this is an encyclopedia and I think it should either be changed or removed.

Looking for a song
I remember a Jamiroquai music video from years ago that featured Jason Kay dancing around in a very white room where the floor kept moving. The furniture, from what I recall was black leather and stayed in place, while the floor moved. Can anyone name the song? Dismas 19:54, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

It's "Virtual Insanity"

Eh?
just two excerpts from the article...

'' Dynamite and was released on June 20, 2005. It reached #2 on the UK charts'' and 2005 Dynamite #3 UK

Now, is it 2nd or 3rd? i dunno better, otherwise i would correct it. im gonna leave it for ya fans :P

Jamiroquai's Vocabulary that was Demonstrated
Although the vocabulary Jamiroquai demonstrated in the quotes made in the article is completely relevant, I would just like to comment that they are rather vulgar, probably due to how he felt at the time. Syr0 03:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Jamiroquai and Maroon 5
Okay i might be a little off or it might be the sleepiness seeping in, but i think that the voice sounds almost identical... the Jamiroquai voice sounds more youthful whereas the Maroon 5 voice sounds older, but this would make sense seeing as how Jamiroquai was before Maroon 5... am i the only one who feels this way? remember this is only a theory of mine, i might be wrong, but i don't wanna be called an idiot because of it. if you listen to both of the groups then you might hear the similarities for yourself. like i said i might be wrong, and in no way am i saying they are the same singer, but it is cool that they sound almost identical

by the way, i am sorry about my typing, i realize the spelling is probably all wrong and the non-usage of the uppercase lettering.

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Yeah, roger that mate. Try listening to "Sunday Morning" the Maroon tune, and then listen to Virtual Insanity right after. Extremely similar songs (unfortunately), and I do think Maroon 5 took a generous bit of their sound from Jamiroquai.

Maroon 5 is a terrible band compared to Jamiroquai. It's not even an "apples to oranges" thing. Maroon 5 is just a cheesy pop-rock band that has absolutely no balls

One hit wonder??
Just caught an interesting episode of "One Hit Wonders" on Much Music in Canada (May 24/06). As the name implies, the Show basically shows videoa and talks about one hit wonders. I have no idea what constitutes a 1 hit wonder to whomever put the show together but I was surprised that Jamiroquai was featured for their hit "Virtual Insanity." The host mentioned that since that song we haven't heard much from them. Yet, Jamiroquai has released numerous successful albums and singles since then. A Funk Odyssey, for example, went double platinum. Am I wrong or is Jamiroquai anything but a hit wonder? (not that it matters, I'd like the band anyways but I found it surprising that Jamiroquai would be labelled a 1 hit wonder)


 * Odd that a song which would rarely be stated as their most popular or famous was considered their "One Hit Wonder". Then again, I remember a similar sort of TV show I watched recently about One-Hit wonders in the 1980's which, for some reason, featured a couple of the decade's most successful bands. I guess TV show writers don't have much time to work out the actual content of the shows, most of their time is probably spent trying to script the dozens of awful z-list celebrity opinions that fill most the time within these shows. Canderra 13:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, Jamiroquai has indeed sold a lot of albums and been in business, etc. since "Virtual Insanity". But I think if you define a hit as a song that reaches the top 10, 20, 40, what have you, that may be a true statement, at least for North America, that they are thus far a one-hit wonder. NickBurns 17:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Rumours
Should this article really contain rumours about the bands future? Not only should an encyclopedic article be based around facts not magazine columist speculations, but the the rumours of breaking up seem very unlikely anyway considering the band has just signed up to a new major record label. Canderra 12:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Clean-up tag
Why has the clean-up tag been placed on the history section?

I'm not saying the section couldn't do with a clean-up (like saying an article cannot be improved in any way), but such tags should have a corresponding talk page section. Canderra 18:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you're right. I'm the one who anonymously placed the tag onto the page yesterday. The section is a real mess, especially the dates. "Dynamite" is still listed as their "most recent" album. I've been thinking of splitting the whole text by eras ("Pre-Emergency on Planet Earth era", "EOPE era", "TROTSC era", "TWM era" (and so on), but the whole thing is just too messy for me to do that. MrFunkster 20:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I cleaned this up today - rearranged and updated information, and added proper name to the greatest hits. NickBurns 17:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Proprosed removal of Jay Kay vs. Sony section
I believe that the quotes used in the Jay Kay vs. Sony section are not best suited for this article. For one, quoting Jay Kay using the F word multiple times for an encyclopedia article is not the best representation of the band (someone reading about the band for the first time might think their songs contain a lot of profanity, which is completely false). As well, the subsection itself is unnecessary and non-notable for the article. A simple "Kay expressed dissatisfaction with his longtime record label Sony Music." along with a reference might suffice. Other editors please post your opinion so that we can fix or remove this. Thank you. Bobo is soft 05:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I say no. The quotes are too informative to be left out just like that, as they precisely describe his anger and dissatisfaction at the time. (Although what I really would agree on is to change the title of the section into something that doesn't sound like something that has to do with legal "troubles". I think you're also a bit wrong with the profanity thing. While their album songs are clean and not really profane in any way, many of the live versions are awfully profane at time ("The Kids", "High Times", "Revolution 1993" etc.). MrFunkster 13:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Genre
Come on guys... 6 genres? Let's not list every genre from all songs he's done. I propose Funk, feel free to expand from that or limit it to that. GBobly 15:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm all with that, though I'd love to mention all the genres the band has explored (Precisely, Acid Jazz, Jazz-Funk, Electro-jazz, R&B (Motown), Twee pop (Half the Man), Soul, Downtempo, Reggae, Rock, Electronica, Disco etc.), somewhere in the text. MrFunkster 19:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Page protection
Some prick person keeps redirecting "Jamiroquai" to just "Jason Kay". I'd like it if this page would be protected from editing by unregistered users. MrFunkster 19:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Am I the sick "fool"
The Jamiroquai page was redirected into the Jay Kay page because isn't Jay Kay Jamiroquai. Has been for the last 9 years.
 * No you are wrong. Jamiroquai is a BAND, comprised of many members, Jay Kay is only the lead vocals, for example there was once Stuart Zender on bass, and now theres Matt Johnson on keyboards and Derrick McKenzie on drums. Jay Kay is not a one man show, the instrumentals and musicians count too. Someone please get rid of the redirect. And please next time post on the talk page before you make a major redirect like that, and don't forget to sign your posts with four ~'s. Thank you. Bobo is soft 20:28, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Do you think I'm Stupid? I know about Stuart Zender and all the members that had left. '''But why is that on many websites under Jamiroquai it just has a picture of Jay. I don't see any other members. ON CD COVERS AND POSTERS AND MUSIC VIDEOS AND INTERVIEWS. Just say. So that is why I say that he is Jamiroquai. (Pleasantview 08:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC))
 * So you're saying we should delete the article on the 18th century just because it's 'past'? Oh, please. Read the goddamn policies. Your personal opinion here matters not. Only facts do. Facts. FACTS. If you're going to publish your personal opinions on the band (oh, excuse me again, o great king of the internet, I should've known there's no band, just the one and only Jamiroquai), then go write a book/essay/whatever on it. MrFunkster (Can't be bothered to log in) 87.116.169.105 16:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Just accept the redirect.
Jamiroquai is Jay Kay. The redirect has been there for 3 days and you would have done something by now if you didn't want it there. We are not even discussing this so I'm going to redirect this page in to the Jay Kay page and message me if you have any problem whatsoever about that. Until then I'm taking an asprin. (Pleasantview 08:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Yes Sir, King of the Internet, Sir!Skomorokh 16:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Jamiroquai purports themselves as a band and therefore the convention is to list them as a band. The distinction between band/group and a solo artist is often blurred so the standard convention is to list the group/artist as whatever they classify themselves as (within reason obviously). With this in mind, Jamiroquai should clearly be listed as a band unless you can find an official statement released by Jamiroquai which states otherwise. Canderra 01:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Obviously you must love the redirect
Why are we not discussing this? This is only making me want to redirect the page even more you know. (Pleasantview 00:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Listen, mama-fucker, Jamiroquai is a fucking band, with a fucking history behind themselves. Virtual Insanity is not their only song, and TWM is not their (oh, pardon me, his) only album. Again, the band has a big fucking history behind themselves. Jamiroquai and Jason Kay are two different fucking things! Just because the press are too brainless to fucking tell the band and a single person apart gives you no excuse to vandalise these fucking pages. Now leave these pages alone, or I'll get a fucking admin to whip your dirty ass. MrFunkster 09:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Stop. Stop. For the love of God stop. Josh Homme is the only constant member of Queens of the Stone Age, Trent Reznor is the only current member of Nine Inch Nails, Tom Morello is The Nightwatchman. Are you beginning to see a pattern here? Skomorokh 04:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

No I don't see it. But I do see a redirect in your future. (Pleasantview 06:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Ah. You are doing this for the lulz, I deduce. Skomorokh 07:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

LET US REACH A CONSENSUS, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
Consensus on what?: Should the Jamiroquai article be deleted and be placed as a redirect to Jason Kay?
 * Please sign your message by typing four tildes ( ~ ). Qwerty (talk) 11:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose: Any person with minimal knowledge about Jamiroquai should know that they're a band, not a single person. MrFunkster 08:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * VERY STRONG Oppose: Such a consensus shouldn't even be necessary. Jamiroquai is a band, not a single person, that is pure fact. Bobo is soft 22:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. If Jay Kay was in fact Jamiroquai, wouldn't he use jamiroquai as his stage name, considering Jay Kay is already a pseudonym for Jason Cheatham? If Jay all of a sudden starts calling HIMSELF Jamiroquai, then I'd agree, but until then, Thumbs Down. Xodiaq 03:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * This isn't the correct channel for such discussion. Please don't type in all caps, too. Qwerty (talk) 11:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Removed fansites/community sites/etc.

 * Jamirosite, the Italian site
 * Jamirodreams, the German fan page
 * Jamitaly, the Italian community

This is covered by the section 'Links to avoid' ("Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace), discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups) or USENET."), hence they have been removed from the article. Qwerty (talk) 11:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Michael Smith
Never touched wiki before (aside from copy and paste so I could screw this up, but in case I'm doing this right:

In the former band members section there is a link to a article on Michael Joseph Smith, his bio there doesn't seem to match with what I found on google for "jamiroquai michael smith" can any confirm if this is the right guy? Robert fiske 02:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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Jamiroquai's New CD...released when?
Jamiroquai's new CD, ADDICTED I read is to be released sometime at the end of this year. Is that true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.38.238 (talk) 01:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

closest thing to an album but most likely fake http://www.icelebz.com/lyrics/jamiroquai/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.158.54.212 (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC) is this a fair question?Prisms and rain (talk) 02:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Headbutted by photographer
I think there should be an article about the time Jay-Kay was headbutted by a photographer for being an obnoxious little shit. ?

Merger proposal
I suggested that Buffalo Man be merged here. It really isn't notable enough for its own page. Conical Johnson (talk) 02:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Rock Dust Light Star
In this section, there's a line that states "Instead of the new direction that was originally intended, the album's sound is more electronic than anything else they had ever done." The citation given is to a page on funkin.com where no such claim is made. This sounds opinionated rather than factual.98.247.142.108 (talk) 09:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

In addition, the entire Rock Dust Light Star section really ought to be trimmed down to a couple of sentences. The album has been out for some time, and much of this section consists of remnants of people posting rumors about the album before its release. The amount of content related to this single album is completely out of proportion, with many times more text than all the other albums combined. 199.0.156.193 (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Why is "Canned Heat" not listed as being used in Napolean Dynamite?
I thought that this song was one of the biggest commercial successes that Jamiroquai had. Definitely one of the most recognized next to "Virtual Insanity", yet it is not even discussed in the wiki article. You might want to add that...97.66.6.202 (talk) 18:03, 8 February 2012 (UTC)kcesair

The Brand New Heavies
Jay Kay didn't audition for The Brand New Heavies according to BNH founder http://www.5chicago.com/features/october2012/brand-new-heavies/index.html 85.232.157.155 (talk) 10:45, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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Instruments
Could someone clarify as to what exactly is meant by "platins" and "fractal designs"? Are these instruments? And if not, why are they listed in the instrument section? Also, I really think "turntables" is a more encyclopedic term than "wheels of steel" for DJ D-Zire's instrument. "Wheels of Steel" is too colloquial, and most people know them as turntables anyway. J. Martin Velez Linares (talk) 15:43, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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