Talk:January 28 incident

Garbled
The background section seems garbled. japanese military instigated anti japanese protests to justify the war? there are no citations for it so if there is no feedback i'll change it to an upsurge in ani japanese feeling. remove the whole bit about blaming it on the jap military 59.178.195.47 (talk) 17:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

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"Failing to break through the Chinese defence from the eenter position, the Japanese suddenly changed their tactics ... detachment of the Cadets Corps and personally directed a counter-attack on the invading Japanese. ... more than 15,000 Japanese troops participated in the fighting during this extended and sanguinary battle and with all their modern artillery and air bo mbers, failed to dislodge one Division of Chinese troops after sustaining heavy casualties estimated at over 4,000."

http://books.google.com/books?id=RwYLiA8ehwcC&q=A+sanguinary+battle+took+place+and+heavy+casualties+japanese+detachment+raid&dq=A+sanguinary+battle+took+place+and+heavy+casualties+japanese+detachment+raid&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9kOxUKriKJCB0AG6tIBg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ

Rajmaan (talk) 22:12, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Japanese casualty figure
Currently there are two citations used for the Japanese casualty figure. Both are English-language sources.

One citation is Stephen Robinson's “Eight Hundred Heroes: China's Lost Battalion and the Fall of Shanghai”, which cites “Grescoe, Shanghai Grand, 923/8920”. This happens to be the other citation used.

Grescoe's work states "The cost, though, was enormous. The Japanese had boasted they could take Shanghai in four hours. The battle lasted for five weeks, and cost the lives of 3,000 of their best troops. The shelling, bombardment, and street fighting destroyed 85 per cent of the buildings in Chapei, and killed 10,000 Chinese civilians.” Taras Grescoe “Shanghai Grand”, page 134.

Unfortunately Grescoe's work does not include proper citations, merely notes, and thus there is no citation in the text to verify the origin of this figure.

In regards to this, I will be updating the figure to the claim made directly by the Japanese military in their official battle history. If one wishes to add Western and/or Chinese estimates, please be my guest, but I strongly recommend using works which include proper citations and to avoid double citing works for a single claim.

-Adachi Adachi1939 (talk) 02:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)