Talk:Jay Heritage Center

Proposed merger
I have proposed merging this article into the 1838 Peter Augustus Jay House article. A merge to template was added here accordingly. The discussion regarding this proposed merger can be found here (at that article's talk page).  Ergo Sum  04:47, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Reasons not to merge Jay Heritage Center, 1838 Peter Augustus Jay House and Jay Estate (also known as Jay Property)
Dear Ergo Sum, Thanks for your interest in the Jay Heritage Center, the 1838 Peter Augustus Jay House and the Jay Estate (also known as Jay Property). We are grateful for your efforts to make our Wikipedia presence more accessible especially since the history we are preserving is so important!

The Jay Heritage Center, the 1838 Peter Augustus Jay House and the Jay Estate (also known as Jay Property)are all 3 very different things but related to each other like Russian nesting dolls. JHC is a non-profit that owns the 1838 Peter Augustus Jay House and its surrounding .75 acres outright (as well as an additional non-Jay related 1907 Carriage House and .75 acres around it). The 1838 Jay Mansion which is notable for its outstanding Greek Revival architecture and history was not John Jay's house but was built on the footprint of Jay's original home, a 1745 farmhouse called "The Locusts"; pieces of the 1745 house were incorporated into the 1838 structure. The house lies within the Jay Estate landscape (23 acres in entirety) which is notable for being the land that John Jay grew up upon with its original viewshed towards Long Island Sound (immortalized in a prominent Guy Pene Du Bois mural); the land itself also has the highest archaeological importance. This 23 acre parcel of land and everything on it is also operated and maintained by JHC even though JHC does not own all of it. That is why they all have separate Wikipedia entries. It is a unique relationship and to our knowledge the only configuration of its kind among New York State historic sites as JHC is not "friends" group but rather a distinct entity with both ownership rights and operating responsibilities.

Hope this is helpful. I can understand why you might suggest merging the sites but that would likely confuse these legal distinctions that have taken many years to clarify. Given your interest in NY History and the law, it would be a pleasure to have you come visit us! - Minard38 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minard38 (talk • contribs) 12:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see my response on the 1838 Peter Augustus Jay House talk page.  Ergo Sum   18:27, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Frank A. Rooke
The article states the 1907 Van Norden Carriage House and 1907 Zebra House were designed by Frank Rooke. I'm wondering what the source for that statement is, and whether you have any further sources for Rooke. Thank you very much. Vzeebjtf (talk) 12:03, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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