Talk:Jell-O

Grammar
The first powdered gelatin for use in desserts was made from goose very effectively and in 1897, sold the patent to cough syrup manufacturer Pearle B. Wait. This means that the first gelatin was itself doing the selling. What is really meant here? 86.143.199.93 06:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

First gelatin powder
Let's get the record straight here. Who put that the first gelatin powder was from geese, and does anyone have a source for it?  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Flavor
I noticed that Jell-O tastes a lot like Kool-Aid. Considering they are both owned by Kraft, is there a chance that the flavoring used is the same? Just curious 138.88.98.119 01:05, 15/2/2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt we'll get the answer to that here. It's possible that they are using the same industry wide available flavourings. I think everything tastes the same in the U.S. --Monotonehell 02:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think there would be a strong chance, even if they weren't from the same company. I'm with Monotonehell: I don't think that there are all that many different varieties of "artificial cherry flavor".  Jolly Rancher candies taste like Kool-Aid and Jell-O, too, I think.  By the way, check out the Taste article.  Mdwyer 06:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Profanity
I was trying to revert sections History and How It's Made, but got locked out for routine maintenance. Hopefully someone will catch this. Blueerica 23:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Discontinued flavors of Jell-O brand desserts
I am compelled to remove this section as it does not seem to contribute to this article in any way. Discuss please. Angrymansr 15:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Personally I disagree, in that it is interesting to see what flavors have come and gone in and of itself, not to mention the reflection of how the public's tastes & dining habits have changed over the years (e.g. the old "salad flavors" of celery, spicy tomato, et.al.). I actually came to this page tonight to reflect on the old "salad flavors" as I had seen an ad for the celery flavor in an old magazine (and the "salad flavors" had come and gone before I was born). But, that is just my opinion. I believe it adds to the evolution of the Jell-O brand over the years, though knowing when (what year) the discontinued flavors were added &/or discontinued would further add to that end in my opinion. On a related note, I am somewhat perplexed as to why "Strawberry-Kiwi" is listed both in the "Current," as well as the "Discontinued" flavors. One of the listings clearly has to be incorrect.

I agree, please do not remove that section. --66.108.32.86 08:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm all for keeping this section (it's fascinating), but will someone please tell me that "Winter Ashtray" is some vandal's joke? SmoggyRob 13:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Put me down in the "keep" segment. It's not sourced; but, feasibly, it could be verified. Ichormosquito 12:03, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Tom Thumb
It is stated that the Tom Thumb was the first steam locomotive, it was not. It was the first steam train in the USA. The first steam train was built 26 years earlier in the UK by Richard Trevithick and Andrew Vivian. I have edited. 62.56.48.51 06:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * 2A02:A44D:95E3:1:95A9:E100:A82D:ADEA (talk) 10:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Images
A good picture showing products would be nice. ;-) --Nemissimo 08:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * @Nemissimo I don't even know how I got here but ok 😢🥲 2600:8804:86C5:9400:9DB1:1116:C699:789E (talk) 16:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

no-bake cream pies
What on heaven's earth is a no-bake cream pie? Followed the cream pie link and searched for it but found nothing:( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.96.131 (talk) 22:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, give us informations!Talltim (talk) 22:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * "No-Bake" refers to the crust, which consists of graham crumbs and does not need to be baked. 71.184.87.187 (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

illogical reference to sale of patent
Early in the History section, the text reads "In 1845, industrialist Peter Cooper (who built the first American steam-powered locomotive, the Tom Thumb), obtained a patent (US Patent 4084) for powdered gelatin derived from the bones of geese. Forty years later the patent was sold to a LeRoy, New York-based carpenter and cough syrup manufacturer, Pearle B. Wait." U.S. patents grant exclusive rights to the patented invention for only 17 years, and after that period the patented concept generally goes into the public domain. It makes no sense that an 1845 patent could be sold for any value after 1862, since after the patent expires anyone may freely use the patented concept. Does anybody know the correct history, or can shed light on why Wait would buy an apparently expired patent? Patent 0004084 (leading zeroes required for search function) is available at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.208.58 (talk) 22:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:JelloUtah.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)2600:1700:E4A0:1000:C51:AE7E:5B85:59D8 (talk) 06:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Well known desert?
"Jell-O is also used as a substantial ingredient in a well-known dessert, the preparation of which requires a mold designed to hold Jell-O, and the depositing of small quantities of chopped fruit into the Jell-O before it hardens and takes on its typical form." What is the well known desert then? Talltim (talk) 22:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just the dessert with jello and fruit in it, it's not a commercial item that I know of. 68.113.46.175 (talk) 08:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Jell-o in song
The article refers to "Cockeyed Optimist" as the earliest reference to jell-O in song, but the very well-known "A Fine Romance" by Kern and Fields refers to Jell-o, and that song was first recorded in 1936. 216.194.21.134 (talk) 10:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Was Beyoncé referring to Jell-O in her song Bootylicious with the line "I don't think you're ready for this jelly." Does that warrant mention?

A Way Of Describing How You Feel - Physically and/or Emotionally
Jello sometimes can be used as a metaphor in referencing a physical or emotional sense or state of being. For example, "my girlfriend makes me feel like Jello when I think of or am around her." Or in the physical sense, "my legs feel like Jello" - caused by either a workout, long walk or the result of an intense emotional reaction or state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.102.146.26 (talk) 21:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Where are the Pudding Pops?
An article on Jell-O that only mentions Pudding Pops in the context of pop (ha!) culture is saddening. Pudding pops were a key part of my childhood and, one would think, of Jello-O's history. Tell us about their origin, their flavors and (seriously) if they're still around... we were discussing them and looked here for information and, alas, alack, nowhere. Nary a mention. Saddening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.68.155.240 (talk) 01:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I've just been redirected here when looking for Pudding Pops, and there's still no mention of them. To have a redirect to a page with no information about that topic is not very good. What is a pudding pop anyway? Carty239 (talk) 15:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Jell-o Gelatin for Salads
The article only mentions these favors (Celery, Italian, Mixed Vegetable and Seasoned Tomato) in the Discontinued flavors section. They have been removed from that section at various times as vandalism, but the Kraft web site confirms they existed. VMS Mosaic (talk) 00:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm surpised they exist. 70.24.79.124 (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)--->

Jell-O Shots
Hello everyone! I added some information to the Jell-O shots section. I am new to Wikipedia and mistakingly added a recipe. Someone was kind enough to remove it for me and explain my mistake. If anything else is needed that I could help with, please feel free to let me know. danni1125 (talk) 02:30, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Inconsistent spellings - Jello and Jell-O
The article clearly explains that Jell-O is a brand name, and it's the official name. However, the spelling Jello appears in a number of places later in the article. While Jello (or jello) are the most commonly used form in everyday usage, shouldn't a Wikipedia article use the official brand name? Even if only for stylistic reasons, there should not be two inconsistent spellings within the same article. Omc (talk) 17:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Jello is a more generic name. If it is clearly talking about the brand, then it should definitely be Jell-O. The other term should probably be restricted to generalizing, comparing or contrasting this brand with other "jellos," or remain largely unused in favor of more generic names for clarity, but that's just my opinion. —PC-XT+ 07:29, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Global importance
I know Jell-O is an iconic American brand, but is it / has it ever been sold elsewhere? I don't believe it's ever been sold in the UK, for example, where there is no dominant brand of 'jelly' and Kraft have historically not had a big presence. Some global info would improve the article, which has a bit of an 'all the world's America' tone to it at present. --Ef80 (talk) 14:39, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Question RE: Invention Date
In the infobox, is the invention date specifically just for the Jell-O brand of gelatins and puddings and other products they sell or is it meant to be for gelatin in general? Because if it is the latter, the date is way off, as the first English patent for gelatine (or gelatin in some spellings) was 1754. Just thought I would call for a point of clarification here.ADg2k14 (talk) 02:25, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

apricot jell-o
To whom it my concern      I am wondering is there a reason why I, can not find apricot Jell-O in any stores.

It would please me very much if you would call me to let me know, for I am not very good on computer.

Thank You Very Much Sincerely Yours

Cultural: Add Judaism and Islam
In addition to the (very interesting!) section on Mormonism, I think we should have a section for Judaism and Islam, since gelatin from animals which are not kosher/halal (pigs) presents a problem to Jews and Muslims. TAPwiki (talk) 06:58, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't speak for Muslim dietary practices, but I have a box of Jell-O here, that has the UO emblem (Union of Orthodox Rabbis). That means it's kosher for a Jew, even for Passover.  139.138.6.121 (talk) 02:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

That’s neat! It must be either kosher gelatin or plant derived ? TAPwiki (talk) 03:02, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Date of trademark
This article is quite wrong. I was reading the New York Herald for 15 April 1865, the reports of Lincoln’s murder. On page two it has ads for both “Graino” and “Jello" The New Dessert.” Look at the leftmost column. I am not an expert and hope someone will look into this.--&#39;&#39;Paul, in Saudi&#39;&#39; (talk) 11:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

2600:1700:E4A0:1000:C51:AE7E:5B85:59D8 (talk) 06:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

vegetable flavors
Article reads: "By the 1950s, salads became so popular that Jell-O responded with savory and vegetable flavors such as celery, Italian, mixed vegetable, and seasoned tomato."

This gives the impression that the vegetable flavors were released in the 1950s and they were not. Celery and Mixed Vegetable were introduced in 1964 and were followed by Italian Salad and Seasoned Tomato in 1965. This can easily be verified with advertisements found on-line, especially those from newspapers. 71.184.87.187 (talk) 14:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)