Talk:Jen Gates

Exact date of birth
WP:DOB (a section of WP:BLP, which is an important policy) says: "With identity theft a serious ongoing concern, people increasingly regard their full names and dates of birth as private. Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object. If the subject complains about the inclusion of the date of birth, or the person is borderline notable, err on the side of caution and simply list the year."

Uncited exact dates of birth for living people should not be included in articles. Evne if there is a citable reliable source, such dates should not be included unless there are indications that they have already been widely published, or published by the subject (as on a personal web site or in an interview). Moreover, please consider what actual encyclopedic value the exact birth date has. For most people, the year of birth is all that is needed to place the person in the proper context of his or her times. There are some cases where the precise birth date is relevant, but they are very much the exception. I have therefore removed the exact date of birth from this article, and i ask that it not be restored without cited sources, and a discussion leading to a consensus that it is relevant to the article. DES (talk) 23:54, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Curlingzone is fairly reliable, but I added a reference from the World Curling Federation. I'd call that pretty reliable in my opinion. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:26, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . But the question isn't just one of reliability. Anything on Wikipedia is likely to come up very early on search results for the subject, it therefore constitutes wide publication. The question is, was the date already "widely published" (or else published by or with the consent of the subject) before it was added to Wikipedia. A reliable but niche source is not a good enough reason to include an exact birth date, according to WP:DOB quoted above. Also, i ask you to consider, what value does having the exact birth date in the article provide? How does it help a reader understand the subject more than just having the year would? Why should it be included at all? DES (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming consent was given if it's an international sport body. Anyways, this is a policy I'm not overly familiar with, as this is the first time an editor has complained about an article I've edited about it. It's my opinion that someone's birth date is about as noteworthy as it gets when it comes to encyclopedic entries. -- Earl Andrew - talk 17:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)