Talk:Jerry Horan

Jerry Horan's mother
Just a nitpick. Mary ( Horan ) McLeod was not the mother of Jerry Horan. Horan had four children ( Jerry, Johny, Mary Ellen, Kate ) by a different wife ( I don't know the name ) and Mary McLeod had five children ( Elsie, Isabel, Mabel, Robbie, and Norman ) by a different husband ( David McLeod ) when the Horan / McLeod marriage took place. Mary Horan McLeod's actual birth name was Mary Ponsonby.

I don't know when David McLeod died, but Elsie McLeod, Isabel McLeod, and Mabel McLeod, were born in 1893, 1895, 1896, respectively and Robbie McLeod was born in 1902. So, Horan & Mary McLeod must have married sometime in the 1900s after David McLeod's death. As Jerry Horan was born on 15 Dec. 1885 there is no way Mary ( Ponsonby ) McLeod could have been his mother.


 * John Horan and Mary Ponsonby were married in 1880. Katherine was born in 1881, Nellie in 1882, Jerry in 1885 and John in 1888.  Supposed John Sr. died of a head wound in 1888.  Mary Ponsonby Horan then married David McLeod in 1891.  John and Mary were my great-Grandparents.  The James Horan and Mary listed below are my aunt and uncle.  My father was born in 1921 and knew his grandmother (Mary Ponsonby Horan McLeod) quite well and knows the order of the marriages.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clannhoran (talk • contribs) 14:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Mary ( Ponsonby ) McLeod was born on 18 Dec 1862 ( or '63 ) and died on 21 Sep 1934.

I'm the grandson of Mabel ( McLeod ) Redmond and my sources on these statements are family records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonbyte (talk • contribs) 09:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * It'd be super if you could find a published geneology of the family (even one that was privately published), and be able to cite that. - Tim1965 (talk) 13:40, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I have been talking with Jim Horan (b.1925) and he told me that his sister, Mary, may have some Horan family records that would tell us when Mary McLeod married a Horan. Jim's father, John Frances (b. 1888), and Jerry Horan (b. 1885) were brothers. If she does I'll post them here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonbyte (talk • contribs) 09:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I hope you can find even more about his past than this article contains. It would be so awesome to know about his education, early life, parents and what they did, etc. Wikipedia relies on published sources because any malicious teenager or nutjob can say "I'm Jerry Horan's long-lost bastard stepchild" and claim that he was an anarchist or mentally ill or had webbed toes or something. Rather than allow such misinformation to get into the encyclopedia, Wikipedia relies on published sources. Maybe those published sources are wrong; you'll notice that a lot of Chicago Times articles make it in here, and back in the early 1900s that paper was more interested in attacking alleged mob figures than it was in learning the truth about people. So sometimes they printed one thing one year, and a contradiction the next year. Sometimes they just got it wrong, out of bias or because they relied on rumor or hearsay rather than real investigative reporting. So I hope you can help make this article accurate! - Tim1965 (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)